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DysonInventsBig


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The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Original Message   Mar 7, 2009 4:21 pm
~ The DDM DC22 (TurboHead & MotorHead) arrives in the U.S. ~

James Dyson and his team invent another revolutionary vacuum and invent another Dyson only market segment.


  • Pre-motor filter to be washed once every seven years.
  • The on/off button lights red when it's time to clean pre-motor filter.
  • The pre-motor filter is large and fits AROUND the motor.

  • The DDM is extremely powerful.
  • The DDM can/will outlast its user.
  • The DDM automatically shuts off when airflow is interrupted for more than 10 seconds.
  • The Hepa filter AFTER the motor will never turn black with carbon dust and never needs attention.
  • Controls are in the hose handle.
  • A DC05 MotorHead-like power nozzle.  Telescopic wand.
  • A very cool bare floor nozzle, and very cool full sized attachments (which store on the hose).
Update...
  • Exclusive:  Patented Dyson Digital Motor, very powerful!, unique and strong sounding.  Should/could last a lifetime (your lifetime).
  • Exclusive:  Little or possibly no pre-filter maintenance if bin is emptied as recommended.
  • Exclusive:  Patented Telescopic Wand:  Lightweight, plastic, very strong.
  • Exclusive:  Filtration - Core + Root Technology, w/ 21 high efficiency cyclones.
  • Motor burn out:  If airflow is cut off, if pre-filter clogs (prematurely or after many, many years of use) - motor shuts down and a signal light illuminates.
  • Size:  Small, DC05 - like.  Compacts down via the patented TW.
  • Controls:  In handle, power on/off, hi/lo speeds, brush on/off.
  • Retail:  $799.  Sold exclusively through independent Dyson dealers where the vacuum can be properly demonstrated and it’s benefits explained.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #102   Apr 1, 2009 7:50 am
CarmineD wrote:

Second, I have owned and used my pint sized HOOVER since August 2007.  I use genuine HOOVER filter bags at about $2 a pop.  No upgrades.  Since it has a 'full-bag indicator" I use the feature to tell me when to replace the bag.  The two filters, pre and post, both washable and reusable, are still in pristine condition.  Unbelievable.  Even the bag compartment is remarkably clean during bag changes.  $50  Made in China.  Wonderful!

Carmine D. 



Mea culpa.  The bags, 5 to a pcakage, plus a primary and secondary filter, retail for $5.99.  I am currently using the 3 rd bag that came with the new vacuum.  One inside the vacuum, when bought new, and 2 spares.  I've used the vacuum since August 2007, or almost a year and one half and just put new bag 3 in [full indicator was not engaged].  By year 3, at the current usage rate, I'll be ready for bag 5 and the 2 filter replacements, which are recommended for replacement with each 5th bag change.  Another feature I like about this 'cheapo' is the suction reduction.  A 'rheostat' suction control that increases and decreases suction. 

Hope that helps.

BTW, wonderful graphics on the dysons.  Nice work! 

Carmine D.

bucks03


Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 76

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #103   Apr 1, 2009 3:37 pm
The specs are good it shows the difference. You see that the 'older' Dyson DC07 has the biggest capacity of all the newer ones.  The very first Dysons in the UK had big 4 litre capacity,  no other Dysons after the DC01 DC02 DC04   hold this much dirt.    I liked the wacky colours Dyson used to use for the De Stijl, Clear and Antarctica models.

Not sure why but the latest models do not excite me very much but I am glad to hear that Dyson reliability is better.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #104   Apr 2, 2009 1:21 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Firstly, expressing a contrary opinion to yours is not "beat on dyson day."  It's call exchange of diverse vacuum opinions.

Carmine D. 


Contrary opinion[s]?  Probably.  Fault-finding?  Mostly.

If you were a true vacuum cleaner connoisseur you would of celebrated Sir James’s DDM DC22‘s break-thru inventions and benefits, the decades-old benchmarks it has destroyed and the new benchmarks it set. - And then follow up with your “exchange of diverse vacuum opinions”.

Digital motors are the future, I expect Dyson copy-cat manufacturers are again looking to Dyson to “show them the way”, that is...  they have their patent lawyers and engineers pouring over Dyson's DDM and patents to learn how to best-copy James’ digital motor-radically advanced filtration lead.

Nothing on the planet can touch Dyson’s new benchmarks and benefits and you’re watching it go by.


DIB
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CarmineD


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #105   Apr 2, 2009 2:17 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Contrary opinion[s]?  Probably.  Fault-finding?  Mostly.

If you were a true vacuum cleaner connoisseur you would of celebrated Sir James’s DDM DC22‘s break-thru inventions and benefits, the decades-old benchmarks it has destroyed and the new benchmarks it set. - And then follow up with your “exchange of diverse vacuum opinions”.

Digital motors are the future, I expect Dyson copy-cat manufacturers are again looking to Dyson to “show them the way”, that is...  they have their patent lawyers and engineers pouring over Dyson's DDM and patents to learn how to best-copy James’ digital motor-radically advanced filtration lead.

Nothing on the planet can touch Dyson’s new benchmarks and benefits and you’re watching it go by.


DIB


DIB:

Today is April 2.  Yesterday was April Fool's Day!  You're a day late with this joke!  Performance and price not patents sells vacuums.  Dyson boasts 50 plus patents for its DC27.  Meaningless filler.  It's gotten ONE and ONLY one review to date from a SAM's Club buyer on Dce 28, 2008.  Not an impressive number of buyers/owners for a vacuum that you heard and said is a "GREAT" machine.  Time will tell.... but at least for now I don't see this DC27 product, like the DDM DC22, setting any records for sales among retailers and vacuum buyers.  My opinion.  Not fault finding.  Just being realistic.  I'm not overly entralled as you are over dyson products especailly those that aren't even tried and tested as yet.  Still nothing from the VDTA on the DDM DC22.  I suppose they just are not true vacuum connoisseurs!  Like me. 

Carmine D.

mole


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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #106   Apr 2, 2009 2:22 pm
WHAT !!! WHATS IT COST ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND,IM OFF TO THE LOCAL YARD SALE.

SEE YA

regards

MOLE

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #107   Apr 3, 2009 7:35 am
mole wrote:
WHAT !!! WHATS IT COST ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND,IM OFF TO THE LOCAL YARD SALE.

SEE YA

regards

MOLE



So in other words, MOLE, you're telling propspective vacuum buyers to can the high price imports and buy a used Diamond Jubilee and/or some such model at a local yard sale for $10, $15, $20 and take into an independent vacuum store owner/operator for a refurb/repair!  I have to agree.  Maybe even put on eBay for a few thousand $.

Carmine D.

mole


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Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #108   Apr 3, 2009 9:01 am
Hi Carmine, when your in this business as long as you and I have been, along with a few others like Venson,You know and recommend whats best for your customers.

The quick hit sell them what ever is on the roster and let the service department put out all the fires will and has come back to haunt these same quick buck get the numbers at any cost and are and closing their doors.

Yes the D.J. done right [although not my favorite model] will last long enough that the customer will see their grand kids go through high school.With a new hose every 8 years and tune ups done every 8 to 10 years.

I will admit that after selling and repairing almost every vacuum on the planet[centrals included] ELECTROLUX /AERUS is still the best all around value either new or rebuilt.

The pricing is not insane,

How many 40 and 50 year old dysons, and mieles you see? nuff said.

regards

MOLE

iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
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Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #109   Apr 3, 2009 5:38 pm
Here's one thing that I find questionable about the DC22's motorhead: It's only nine inches wide. To me, this seems to be a bit too narrow, even if its intended purpose is to clean smaller homes. Even the Miele compacts use 10.5" wide power nozzles, let alone the 13.5" width of the Dyson full size power nozzles. It a PN with a narrow width of 9 inches more common in Europe/Asia?

Japanese specs: 282 X 233 X 69 mm or 11.10 x 9.17 x 2.71 inches (Length x Width x Height)

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #110   Apr 3, 2009 6:43 pm
iMacDaddy wrote:
Here's one thing that I find questionable about the DC22's motorhead: It's only nine inches wide. To me, this seems to be a bit too narrow, even if its intended purpose is to clean smaller homes. Even the Miele compacts use 10.5" wide power nozzles, let alone the 13.5" width of the Dyson full size power nozzles. It a PN with a narrow width of 9 inches more common in Europe/Asia?

Japanese specs: 282 X 233 X 69 mm or 11.10 x 9.17 x 2.71 inches (Length x Width x Height)

Howdy iMacDaddy,

All things loved in America are not necessarily a big deal elsewhere. Canister vacuums with power nozzles in general, to my knowledge, are not and have not been a high-priority in regard to European vacuum makers OR consumers in Europe or Asia. I was away a long time and of course always checking out stuff wherever I happened to be. Besides looking around shops and department stores I check out catalogs as well. Upright vacuums of course were being manufactured but canister vacuums with PNs basically were not. Save for Luxe International -- http://www.luxinternational.com/products/bright_home/ -- I saw Siemens, AEG, Fakir, Morphy Richards, Nilfisk, Electrolux AB and any number of canister cleaner brands but can't recall one that included a power nozzle among its accessories. I do not know whether it was due to them not being of interest or importance to consumers, consumer's concerns over power consumption -- quite often a big deal abroad, or just cost. However power nozzles, believe it or not, have been a vacuum buying enticement in this country for at least the last fifty years.

As I stated in an earlier post many PNs were on the small side starting out and few were rating as comparable to a regular upright for good rug cleaning. Thus PN's needed to be wider (to match an uprights cleaning path plus have better brush rolls. Appparently, this challenge has been met as cansters with PNs that don't match upright carpet cleaning ability are more the exception than the rule.

For what it's worth, please note that the average width of straight suction canister vac nozzles was usually 12" and seldom less than 11". Bare floor tools were often made smaller at about 9" to 10".

Unless the area you're cleaning is cluttered with things either of a size or weight that would make moving them inconvenient and/or too time consuming as you work, a 12" to 14" PN should suffice for just about anybody. A 9" PN is not useful just however a vacuum of such small size probably would be render inefficient if fitted with one that's wider. To me using PNs and vacuums this small for other than tiny apartments and/or light duty is the same as borrowing a kid's toy shovel to dig a ditch.

Venson
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Venson


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Points: 1900

Re: The radical - Dyson, DDM DC22 to launch at VDTA. Pre-filter maintence schedule date - yr. 2016.
Reply #111   Apr 3, 2009 7:11 pm
I also forgot the consideration, that in Turkey plus many parts of Asia, people nor their visitors enter their homes wearing shoes. Though I am not sure the same applies for other Muslim countries, in all parts of Turkey, even Istanbul and Ankara the capital, guests remove their shoes when entering private homes. The same applies in Japan and surrounding areas I believe. That alone eliminates need for heavy artillery.

Venson
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