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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Original Message Mar 1, 2009 5:50 pm |
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #40 Apr 16, 2009 4:53 pm |
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Hi Carmine,
Yeah, but look what happened to John Lennon . . .
I'd still like to see more forward movement toward alternative fuels whether man-produced or solar electricity or natural like ethanol and recycled cooking oil. Whatever works is fine by me and even better if it is minimally disruptive or destructive in regard to the environment. Oil's okay by me too but I should like to begin to feel no need to worry over hindrance from whoever has a hand on the valves in the oil fields. All we have to do is start thinking and acting before the well runs dry.
Our problem here is that we are so used to simple luxury -- many of which the most simple, to the rest of the world, are just sweet dreams. We forget that the things we receive are not promised or ours by right but are purely blessings for which we have no guarantee. Unfortunately, that idea doesn't come to mind until we're lined up in our cars because of fuel rationing or facing exorbitant prices. I think it's better to bolster up the house BEFORE the inevitable storm than afterward.
As for vacuums, there are some plain and design ideas that will remain around and giving good service a long time as well. Not everybody feels the need or want for the latest doo-dads. By the way, it just occurred to me that the Air-Rider canister is officially dead. True?
Venson
Hi Venson:
You should run for national office! I'd campaign and vote for you. WRT the Air Rider, I hadn't officially heard of its demise. But, in the current economic environment, I'm not the least surprised. More will go from niche to naught. Why? Consumers are "trading down" in the current hard times. As a result, they acquire frugal spending habits that last long after the good days return. It's a double whammy for high priced niche consumer goods, like the Air Rider. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Reply #42 Apr 22, 2009 3:02 am |
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Hello Acerone: Hard to miss. Gotta love it! WRT rug cleaning by the Dual V. Note the build up of dirt where the rug meets the wall/floor moldingas the user goes over with the Dual V. The Dual V won't get that out unless and user has to get down with a hand brush and clean to do the job completely. An upright with good edge cleaning will prevent that dirt build up in the rug and molding seam. Like ORECK! Carmine D. |
CarmineD
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Reply #45 Apr 23, 2009 6:43 am |
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Too bad that it takes lies to sell.
Besides Consumer Digest selecting the EUREKA BOSS Smart Vac as its best vacuum year over year, Consumer Reports typically [year over year] recommends the $150 EUREKA Smart Vac upright over the more expensive uprights, dyson models in particular. In fact, CR uses a dyson pic in its subscription literature with an admonition that spending more doesn't buy the best and shows a pic of the EUREKA for $150.
I know you didn't particularly care for the EUREKA BOSS SMART Vac, but I understand the Outreach Ministry at the Church use the EUREKA for vacuuming in the homes of the home bound/shut ins. They were happy, according to the Pastor, and please to have it back in service. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Reply #46 Apr 23, 2009 6:32 pm |
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Look close when watching this Video... What do you see "read" on the canister.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr-aT8sYNN8 Hello Acerone: Hard to miss. Gotta love it! WRT rug cleaning by the Dual V. Note the build up of dirt where the rug meets the wall/floor moldingas the user goes over with the Dual V. The Dual V won't get that out unless and user has to get down with a hand brush and clean to do the job completely. An upright with good edge cleaning will prevent that dirt build up in the rug and molding seam. Like ORECK! Carmine D. re: No Loss of Suction taken from Dyson. More proof TTI is “stuck for an answer” when it comes to innovation (mechanical or marketing). TTI gets it’s ideas two ways primarily... 1) Whatever it INHERITS from the purchases of Hoover, Dirt Devil, VAX and 2) Whatever it TAKES from Dyson and others. Hey Carmine, was there any laws broken when you through out the two goofs who were hurting a potential vacuum sale (two brothers if I remember). How much would you of lost... $60 or so? And how many employees would you have to lay off? None? One? Or Two? Why do you cheer when a mans hard work is pilfered to the tune of [potentially] multi-millions lost and potentially hundreds of [folks w/ families] jobs lost?. There is nothing to “love” or celebrate. If thieves and the lazy were eliminated, the quality of life for the masses would skyrocket. DIB
This message was modified Apr 23, 2009 by DysonInventsBig
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Tread184
Joined: Jul 21, 2009
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Reply #49 Jul 21, 2009 5:01 am |
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I guess I understand DIBs problems with Oreck..its a whole back and forth thing... Advertising will always have creative exaggeration....I think the Oreck lawsuit is about Dyson telling a flat out LIE....I think the Manual for Dyson says its doesnt CLOG, but can aquire a "blockage"..hahahaha... Innovaion huh... Where do you have to send a Dyson to get get repaired again..I wouldnt know..I have a local Oreck dealer..And how much does it cost to ship a 25+lb vac...again I wouldnt know..mine weighs less than 9lbs...Oh and emptying this Dyson...where does all of that dust and debris go anyway..mostly into the trash and back into the air for you to breath..Talk about innovations. I would bet that there is a Dyson vac in almost every Oreck store for comparison.....
Orecks dont have a need for much improvment over what was created many many years ago. Have they made improvement..of course the inner bags alone are now available in a cloth like material that creates better air flow accompanied with charcoal to reduce pet smells(and the seal off the dirt) . Metal fans that use to chip and shatter are now replaced with plastic that may wear down, but will not bust and get slung thru a plastic housing. the belts that people complain about..are there to prevent motor damage in case the brush gets entangled. Tell that to Hoover owners when the plastic assemble breaks that spins those front brushes( I use to have one). and im sure there are many more improvements over the years. As far as looks go..the NEW Platnium Plus has a carbon fiber top cover. How fururistic and innovative do they really have to get? It doesnt have to look like a spaceship or be that difficult to use...Yes ive seen the Dyson that the handle comes apart and slides thru the slinky hose just to clean the baseboard edges. Bet thats real fun to work when your trying to finish cleaning up for a dinner party or in a hurry becuase the Mother-in-law is coming over.
They have incorporated(bought out) other companins and incorporated thier tecnologies..IE Ironman and Halo. Oreck not only produces a high quality/high warranty vac, but also has Cleaning products, Floor polishers, Shampooers, Steamers, Air Purifiers, Heaters, and a whole commercial line/division of the company just for supplying businesses witht he tools that they need to keep thier companies clean..So is there really a queastion of what oreck spends on new technologies..They found an idea and incorrorated it..they BOUGHT it..didnt steal it or copy it..like some other manufactures.
Sry to everyone..I dont mean to go off on a tangent, but when some are misinformed/uneducated and have an extremly closed mind it tends to bring out the worst in people...
I do own an Oreck(many) and enjoy them, but I appreciate what other companies bring to the table. I generally wont slam any product over one or two bad attributes..all vacs have a negative factor here and there.. There is always a compromise..and that compromise is what connects a machine to its owner.... You dont go mud ridding in a BMW...at the same time you dont take a hugh 4wheel drive truck with 52inch tires on the Audibon either
Personall all the Nah Nahing is kinda childish, but we all like to play in the sandbox at times...lol
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