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RAD1
Joined: Dec 6, 2008
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Re: Halo Vacuum... What happened to them... We know now....
Reply #14 Feb 2, 2009 1:08 pm |
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As I am reading these comments, I find it humorous, as I approached Miele 3+ years ago about making and marketing a UV-C light for their vacuums. Simple thought for me, as I market and distribute UV-C light systems for forced a/c and heating systems for homes. O well, it vever got off the ground with Miele.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454
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Re: Halo Vacuum... What happened to them... We know now....
Reply #17 Feb 4, 2009 12:24 am |
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As I am reading these comments, I find it humorous, as I approached Miele 3+ years ago about making and marketing a UV-C light for their vacuums. Simple thought for me, as I market and distribute UV-C light systems for forced a/c and heating systems for homes. O well, it vever got off the ground with Miele. Rad1, How did Miele treat you? Did you have to sign your life away... sign their disclosure, which typically states your rights (of said widget) are covered by your patent only. Thanks. DIB
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RAD1
Joined: Dec 6, 2008
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Re: Halo Vacuum... What happened to them... We know now....
Reply #18 Feb 4, 2009 2:34 pm |
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Rad1,
How did Miele treat you? Did you have to sign your life away... sign their disclosure, which typically states your rights (of said widget) are covered by your patent only. Thanks.
DIB DIB, Actually it never really got passed "round 1" so to speak. I don't think they really saw a need, to be honest. I look at it like this...they had a better focus of the niche market and current core product and manufacturing a "specialty" vac - which is what the UV-C vac is - wasn't in their best interest. I tend to agree, really. Like I said, I distribute UV-C lights now - Believe me, people HAVE to be educated about these. It's not an impulse buy. Especially for $599 like the Oreck Halo will be. Plus, you are now talking about replacement costs on the bulb - which HAVE to be replaced every 1 to 1.5 years. This is where David Oreck will make money - in the replacement goods (besides the ridiculous mark-up in the vacuum itself).
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900
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Re: Halo Vacuum... What happened to them... We know now....
Reply #19 Feb 4, 2009 3:52 pm |
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DIB, Actually it never really got passed "round 1" so to speak. I don't think they really saw a need, to be honest. I look at it like this...they had a better focus of the niche market and current core product and manufacturing a "specialty" vac - which is what the UV-C vac is - wasn't in their best interest. I tend to agree, really. Like I said, I distribute UV-C lights now - Believe me, people HAVE to be educated about these. It's not an impulse buy. Especially for $599 like the Oreck Halo will be. Plus, you are now talking about replacement costs on the bulb - which HAVE to be replaced every 1 to 1.5 years. This is where David Oreck will make money - in the replacement goods (besides the ridiculous mark-up in the vacuum itself). Hi RAD1, I've been trying to backtrack to learn who it was who made but htere was a UV set-up that was retro-fitted on re-furb Kirbys. The maker used a name all its own. The product does not appear to have endured on the market but It had to have come out some time last year when the Halo to-do began. I peeked at a Consumer Reports on the rack at Costco and noticed that Halo, way down low on the list, rated as "good" for carpet cleaning but emissions scores were excellent. Since you have some knowledge of UV lights, do you think they can last through the usual thumping and bumping most vacs endure and what's your guesstmate regarding price of replacement . Thanks, Venson
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: Halo Vacuum... What happened to them... We now know....
Reply #20 Feb 4, 2009 4:29 pm |
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RAD1, Thanks for getting back to me. Hopefully you did not spend to much time on this project. A prior to Halo concept was done (patented) in 1993... http://www.google.com/patents?id=I3MfAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=%22vacuum+cleaner%22+ultra+violet+kirby&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1_1#PPA1,M1 One of the earliest - UV in a vacuum patent... http://www.google.com/patents?id=TodHAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=ultra+violet+%22vacuum+cleaner%22&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=1&as_miny_ap=2009&as_maxm_ap=1&as_maxy_ap=2009&as_drrb_is=b&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=1949&as_maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=1776&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1#PPA1,M1 Venson, Here is a Kirby UV patent... http://www.google.com/patents?id=3z5VAAAAEBAJ&dq=%22vacuum+cleaner%22+ultra+violet DIB
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RAD1
Joined: Dec 6, 2008
Points: 17
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Re: Halo Vacuum... What happened to them... We know now....
Reply #21 Feb 4, 2009 4:44 pm |
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Hi RAD1,
I've been trying to backtrack to learn who it was who made but htere was a UV set-up that was retro-fitted on re-furb Kirbys. The maker used a name all its own. The product does not appear to have endured on the market but It had to have come out some time last year when the Halo to-do began.
I peeked at a Consumer Reports on the rack at Costco and noticed that Halo, way down low on the list, rated as "good" for carpet cleaning but emissions scores were excellent. Since you have some knowledge of UV lights, do you think they can last through the usual thumping and bumping most vacs endure and what's your guesstmate regarding price of replacement .
Thanks,
Venson Greetings Venson, Hygienitech was/is the "maker" (here in the states) of a business opportunity offering mattress sanitizing services. They use a Kirby retro-fitted with UV. Fairly simple process and they were making lots of $$$ with the biz opp. This was almost 5 years ago that I first cam across them. I decided that this could be a viable business and This is when I decided to approach Miele, but since that never got going, I shelved the idea. An Aussie company also wanted my company to be a dealer of these machines here in the US, but it didn't seem like a fit. An acquaintance actually did retrofit Kirby's with UV light as well - and it does, in fact work. As for replacment UV lamps, I know mine sell for anywhere in the range of $45-60 - but these are a High Output Germicidal bulb (much more effective than what I anticipate Oreck using). I am guessing in the $25-35 range for his bulbs. Plus, like you said, it depends on the housing they are in, so there is not any breakage of the lamp - as there is a small amount of mercury in UV-C lamps. Should be interesting.
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