Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Having another topic mentioned some new vax machines on a Littlewoods website, I had a look around to see what else might be new and came across the 'new' Dyson DC27 Upright, see link below:

http://www.littlewoods.com/rf/s.do?Np=1&Ns=&Ntk=littlewoods_search&Ntt=dyson&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&Nu=this_product&pageSize=12&Nao=0&cmEvent=page_navigation

They have 2 Models on their website 'Animal' and 'All Floors', first look suggests an update version of the US DC17 but for the UK\Europe markets.  This will be the replacement for the popular DC14.  I thought a separate motor for the brush bar like the DC17 would have been standard, but looks like it uses the DC04\DC07\DC14 clutch setup!   Not sure as the website doesn't say if it just has a slim root cyclone technology or the core is included!   It does look like it has more small cyclones than the current DC14 and DC15 and DC25 models.  See picture of DC27 All Floors model below!  DC18

 

I notice 5 stars on Allergen retention. My question being...How was this determined? Was a particle meter used? With 5 or more seals that leak before the dust even gets to the HEPA filter how is a 5 star rating possibly achieved? On machines that have true sealed HEPA filtration systems, do they get lumped into a lesser efficient group of 5 star machines, thus negating their superior technology? Seems misleading and a dis-service to the consumer if that is true.

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

Interestingly, the HSN Julie HOOVER demo today keyed in on the walls and corners aka edge cleaning.  She used both sides of the nozzle head to show equidistant suction power all around.  One of the tenets of WT technology.

Carmine D.

Model2 wrote:
Wow!!  Sir James and his engineers invent a radical and new way to vacuum over the 120 (or so) year old standard, only to get a rubbish and/or unfair review.  I wonder what vacuum Which claims out-maneuvers the DC24 or the DC25? If lying prone is a criteria, then there should be a separate measurement for this. Readers, paying readers would benefit if Which could be more honest and clear. Not everybody can use a vacuum that lays prone (vacuums lay prone and not flat). Not to mention, that Dyson uprights all have a hose and wand (for a floor tool).

  If the Which Magazine’s editors and so-called technicians, judged the world’s first jet engine airplane they would rate it poorly because jet planes require a higher rate of speed to stay aloft - it would fail their maneuverability test.  These editors [at times] are idiots!

 Below is an example demonstrating how stupid and/or bias consumer magazines (Consumer Reports) can be.  Unfortunately those who work hard to engineer innovations for a tired appliance are not given the proper respect by way of a fair and comprehensive review and/or comparisons.

CR on stairs:  http://www.viddler.com/explore/InventBig/videos/40/?secreturl=64584337


DIB

DIB - both machines were awarded  prestigious 'Best Buys', and of all the 'Best Buy' uprights currently on sale,  the DC25 achieved the highest overall test score (70%). That's not rubbish by any stretch of the imagination. The Ball's innovative, but not perfect - yet. Think how many times Sir James had to redesign his dual cyclone system before he found the one which worked best...and think how many more times it's been reworked since then.

Addressing your point about Which? being honest, out of their 8 current 'Best Buy'  uprights, 7 of them are Dysons. I don't think you can accuse them in any way of an anti-Dyson bias!

Model2 wrote:

It's DIB's phobia, an anti-dyson complex.   Compliments are taken as criticism.  You'd think after no 2008 dyson bonus he would have snapped out of it by now.  But it may take another year with still no dyson bonus to sink in. 

Carmine D.

Isn't it obvious?  The Which “technicians” studied under the Consumer Reports lead technician.  When this CR tech carries an upright up stairs to vacuum vice using the hose and wand...  this is exactly the type of gag you’d see in the old Jerry Lewis, Dean Martin movies.  Funny stuff.  Too bad these little men in big chairs cheat those who spend much time and money developing for a tired appliance.  When so-called consumer magazines bungle simple tests, the consumer and the innovative manufacturers lose.

Dyson needs much more video presenting the many advantages of his appliances. 


DIB

CR on stairs (video):  http://www.viddler.com/explore/InventBig/videos/40/?secreturl=64584337

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Joke's on you DIB.  Many users like me prefer the revolving brush roll action of the upright for cleaning and grooming stairways.  Rather than straight suction with wand.  You'll note many full size and light weight uprights include a "stair handle' for the purpose.  THose that don't include the turbo tool on board for the same reason.

PS:  Jerry and Dean are 2 of my al time favorites. 

Carmine D.

When CR dismisses the benefits of a hose and wand and alike, how do they arrive at such decisions?  Do they flip a coin or...?  However CR arrives at such decisions, it is the paying subscribers who are duped and the innovative manufacturers who are hurt.  A chimp could do much of the so-called [vacuum cleaner] science and evaluations done at CR.

DIB

P.S.  Jerry Lewis has my respect.  The man made history with his humor and does much good and for many.  He should of died long ago, God has kept it from happening.  He needs him.

CR on stairs (video):  http://www.viddler.com/explore/InventBig/videos/40/?secreturl=64584337

DysonInventsBig wrote:
DIB, you're right --- it is a dumb and ineffective to clean stairs especially with a high suction upright that has attachments aplenty that can do the job better in another manner.  So dumb that it's too stupid to try to make a point with.   I can only imagine that  it was pure acciident that a photo shoot with such a numbskull got into the magazine or online. Then again this situation may have been a  chance for weight training by this nudnick.

Venson

According to the Argos.co.uk site, this cleaner is the Dyson "N27"!

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4063201/Trail/searchtext%3EDYSON.htm