Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

mole wrote:

I have known Avalon owners who said they wished they had bought the Camry.  Biggest complaint was interior noise.

Luxury is subjective.  Lexus has an exceptionally smooth ride and an ultra quiet interior.  That is luxury to me.  Others consider a car to be luxurious simply because it is expensive.  Some even go so far as to think luxury is having nitrogen in your tires.

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HARDSELL:

You're right. What was I thinking?  It's just an overpriced camry with some extra doo dads and cup holders.  BMW won the luxury class straight out!

Hope Santa is good to you.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

Did you mean Pro-Team XL21?  ORECK upright and compact canister for $299? 

Buon natale, mi'amico. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Hey HS:

Some posters here consider a vacuum to be quality made simply because it is expensive.  I say, and you do to [albeit after MOLE and I drilled it into you for the last 3 years], it's just overpriced, overhawked and overhyped.  Like toyota's luxury brand name!

I opine since nitrogen provides a smoother quieter ride, you include yourself in the latter category!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Hi Carmine.

No i did not mean the oreck XL21,proteam is a vacuum company that sells commercial uprights and back packs sold at janitorial supply houses,This machine is the same as the sanitaire 6600,the electrolux commercial upright,Its the best bang for the buck vacuum out there,and its half the retail price of the latter mentioned machines.Its the best secret in the vacuum business,well up to now.98% of the proteams parts interchange with the aerus/electrolux commercial upright,remember the prolux ?

Just so you know with all the infighting between the patents and using logos this product allmost never made it to the industry.Check out PULLMAN-HOLT also they have a variation of this machine also.....

MOLE

mole wrote:

Hi MOLE:

I was being facetious!  In his recent advertisments, Dave refers to the ORECK upright/canister duo as the Pro Team!  Wonder where he got the idea for it!

Pax tecum.

Carmine D.

PS:  I remember the ProLux upright!  The ProTeam [ProLux] earns the Carpet and  Rug Institute of Approval/Recommendation.  Canisters, backpack vacuums and uprights.

http://www.pro-team.com/

http://www.carpet-rug.org/commercial-customers/cleaning-and-maintenance/seal-of-approval-products/soa-gl-vacuum-list.cfm?product_type=0&product_usage=0&manuf_id=0

Hi Carmine,
Does ORECK still feel that his non core business,such as irons,air cleaners,floor machines,etc, becoming a drag on company profits? With the economic situation being as it is maybe its time for a little re thinking of the market, Lets face the facts in order to save the company its time to lean things out a little,

The scamble is on, There are posters here that would love to see them fold,Just like hoover did.

MOLE

Hi MOLE:

I agree there are some who would love to see ORECK fade away.  These additional ORECK floorcare venues, even Air Purifiers, came along with the good times.  In hard times, they drain and divert resources from the core ORECK lightweight upright operations and business.  I would not be surprised at all if some of the floorcare venues are sold off.  To retrench by reducing expenses and accumulating much needed cash.

BTW an aside, I mentioned that the new casino that just opened was full of rumors of declaring bankruptcy even before the grand opening last month.  I talked with one of the Corporate muckety mucks and specifically asked.  She laughed at the question and said no way.  I reminded her of the CFO's answers to interviews in September with the Bank heads/debt holders.  She still denied the rumors.  But wasn't laughing as hard.  I opined the spring of 2009 after a couple of quarters of missed payments.  This past week the casino owners and management asked for an extension on a line of credit.  [Can't meet the $450 MILLION debt financing].  This is surely a precursor of bankruptcy filing and reorganization.  I suspect the Corporate manager is/will be fired/laid off soon.

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine, i find your post very interesting about the casino, in your opinion are they part of the problem or part of the solution, Will they be going to uncle sam for a no questions asked like wall street for a BAILOUT.

How many jobs are at stake?

Will they take the corporate jets to D.C. or go by greyhound?

Should they just go belly up  or be sold off for 10 cents on the dollar.

Does vegas have unemployment benefits.


Is paulson a shareholder??????????

MOLE

mole wrote:
Hi MOLE,

Just throwing this in to be helpful.  http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story.asp?s=9039777

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/global/story.asp?s=9554773

Whoa!  Carmine, it's a good thing you've retired -- I think.

Venson