Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

There is no perfect vacum in my experience. 

If you do not have a lot of hard floor surfaces the Eureka Boss does an excellent job of vacuuming.  The exhaust blows dirt away from the vacuum on hard surfaces. 

Dyson looks to be a high grade plastic.  Remember that metal will dent or break also.  If any of the plastic breaks on the Dyson I will bet that it is user neglect.

• we're a military family so I need something that can handle being moved often

    Thanks for the help

I didn't know where to start.  You provide so much for rebuttal.  I excerpted just a few of the comments that you've made many times here before for a response. 

You have said on numerous occasions that the ORECK spread the dirt/dust on barefloors as did the EUREKA BOSS, which you said above again.  I disagree with you with every ounce of being in me.  You are full of the proverbial scatalogical stink.  Both models are excellent as barefloor cleaners.  Both are consistently rated as excellent barefloor cleaners by Consumer Reports.  The fault kind sir with the performance is with the user. 

Never a doubt that you would disagree.  I simply reported my experience with the Oreck and the Boss.  You never reported on the Boss so you likely have no experience with it.  Speaking of BS. Consider this.  You imply that you do not read CR. Yet you quote them very frequently.  They are always right when they report what you like.  When they report something that you do not like you say that they should only be used as a guide.  If I recall correctly they awarded a best buy to a vehicle simply because it had more cup holders than its competitors.  All I do is plug a vacuum in and push/pull it over the floor.  If I see dust blowing around the room only when the vacuum is running I have to assume that this is a result of the vacuum.  Sort of like judging when the wind is blowing.  If the flag is in the horizontal position I can only assume that it is windy.  Please tell me the proper way to vacuum a hard surface since I cause user error.

"Dyson looks to be a high grade plastic."  Tell me, please, exactly what does high grade plastic look like as opposed to low grade?  I'm interested to know and I'm sure others are too. 

What can I say Carmine.  Some of us have abiliy and some do not.  What scientific info do you have to prove Dyson plastic as being inferior?

Metal breaks?  A 20 pound sledge hammer and several direct hits with enough force doesn't count as breakage in the normal course of usage.  Nor does dropping from a 12 story building.

Do you ever wonder why safety helmets are made of plastic and not metal?  More pretection is need in a motor cycle crash or when two football players collide head to head than is needed to protect a vacuum when bumped into furniture.  Glass and china are fragile.  However, dishes do not simply break with proper use.  Maybe we should just use metal cups and plates like the prisons just in case we have one of those days when we toss then in the sink.

You'd bet that "any' of the plastic breaks on dysons are user neglect!!  Wow!  You have keen eyes for judging the grades of plastics AND expert personal knowledge on all dyson users too.  Has to be user neglect IN ALL CASES.  Never dyson!   Sounds like you're saying ALL dysons are perfect vacuums whose only faults are a result of neglectful users.  I'm smelling that unfragrant aroma again. 

How many cases can you precisely name where Dyson plastic failed without user neglect?  I never said that any vacuum is perfect. 

The ORECK brand which you love so much to mock [based on a single free in home trial of 30 days] warranties the plastic vacuum housings on all its models for 10-20 years.  What is dyson's? 

Wow. A 20 year warranty on the housing.  How many have had to be replaced? Why not give it on parts most likely to need replacement.  Like brush rollers and belts that deteriorate simply from sitting on the shelf with no use. 

ORECK earns and maintains the highest seal of approval/recommendation by the Carpet and Rug institute of America for all its models for ALL CARPET brands and styles.  How about dyson?

Neither C and R institute nor CR has ever vacuumed my home so I could care less about their recommendations.  CR also recommends home theater components.  Their recommendations are considered a joke in the audio forums.  You are quick to recommend the ultra expensive vacs sold at independents and say that they last 20 or more years.  Yet you use disposable $50 vacs.  What gives?

Carmine D.

Hello HARDSELL:

I am a vacuum man: All makes and models from the least to the most expensive.  Recall in my first post on this thread, I recommended a dyson if bagless is a prerequisite.

BTW, off topic of vacuums for a brief moment:  How's toyota doing lately?  A loss after 70 years?  From a $25 billion profit last year to a several billion loss this!  Let me finally get this out of my craw after being stuck there awhile:  I told you so!  Months ago and even as early as a year ago!

Merry Christmas my friend!

Carmine D.

My, my  friend how you have changed your tune.  Going back to 2006 when you were singing the praises of toyota, I shot you/it down with BMW.  BTW, how's BWM doing? 

You, like others including toyota, bought into the myth that the Japanese giant had developed a water tight strategy that would yield profits through thick and thin, making it the subject of managerial guides like the 2004 book: "The Toyata Way."   You scoffed when I said more than one year ago that the USA and global economies are on the brink of the precipice and will take toyota and others down with it!  I believe at the time your posts mocked that I was Mr. doom and gloom. 

Carmine D.