Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi,

I am a Dyson guy so I’ll recomend Dyson any day but not every product (I dislike some).  I know users who love their Dyson DC18 “Slim’s”.  Super maneuverable, skinny, lightweight (lighter than full-sized).  They are discontinued and being discounted too (I’ve seen em selling from $250 and up).  5 yr. warrantee.  No extra costs (no bags, filters, belts).  This vacuum sold very well and revolutionized the industry, other manufacturers are trying to copy it but cannot due to Dyson’s patents (maneuver related).

Video here of Sir James beating up one of his vacuums:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/06/25/video-james-dyson-runs-his-own-durability-test-on-a-dc24/  ... this vac is great, but it may get your hair wound on the brush roller (should be fast n easy to clean though).  Requires monthly filter cleaning (rinsing under tap water).

The Bissell Healthy Home is cyclonic too.  But Mark Bissell’s business model is...   sell cheaper only to have the consumer pay more later - Bissell recommends the HEPA filter being replaced ($25) every 6 months.  There is no/little protection (pre-filter) to the motor, only a piece of foam which needs recomended cleaning monthly.  It’s heavy, large and the shroud gets clogged (hair and lint must be pulled/cleaned from the plastic screen inside the clear bin).

DIB

P.S.  Just so you’re aware - this is a forum where you will hear strongly contested positions from the bag guys vs. [Dyson] cyclonic guys.

Hello ainstalshia:

If you are wedded to a bagless upright, dyson is probably the best brand on the market.  Tho you will have work in store with daily bin dumping, regular filter cleaning, and regular de-wrapping hair on the brushbar.

As DIB mentioned, shop for the best prices and the best dyson models.  Some are better than others especially in terms of brush design and dirt bin capacity. 

Most retailers can't advertise actual dyson sale and discounted prices.  Lower dyson prices are available in the big box retail stores.  Many of the discontinued dyson models come with free shipping if bought on the internet. 

WRT to military moving and relocations, dysons are ABS plastic just like all the big box store vacuum brands/models.  Subject to the same breaks, cracks, nicks and dings as the $50 big box retail store brands.  As good if not better vacuum performance than dyson can be had from many of the much less expensive big box store brands.   

Carmine D. 

ainstalshia wrote:
Hi,

Though it is beyond your planned price, you may want to consider a Sebo X series upright.  Why?  Because you will never escape having to deal with cut away long hair BUT the Sebo brush roll does slide out of the cleaner for maintenance and or replacement.   See the following link --- http://www.sebo-vacuums.com/frameset.htm?dir=Products

Please note that this cleaner uses disposable bags and you should inquire what replacement costs are for not only bags but filters.

Hope that helps and have a good holiday.

Venson

CarmineD wrote:
Correction: Dyson's are made from ABS and Polycarbonate, for added impact resistance.

As I said, you’ll here lots of banter/differences on this forum...  

True the cheap vacs use ABS as do the best in business, it's all about engineering and quailty.

Consumer Reports (2007?) rated the Dyson DC17 #2 behind the mostly all metal $1,200 (or so) Kirby and it was made using ABS (first in plastic, if you will).  Dyson’s use Polycarbonate too (very strong).
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-polycarbonate.htm

Here are some sites and video of Dyson’s being tested and deliberately mistreated.
http://www.dyson.co.uk/insidedyson/#dc24 (click on video)
http://www.dyson.co.uk/testing/
http://www.dyson.co.uk/insidedyson/#testingfacilities


DIB

M00seUK wrote:

Technically: "high impact ABS thermoplastic and polypropylene."  A $50 Dirt Devil or $500 dyson, it's all the same.

Carmine D.

I think I will have to second the Sebo recommendation.  For a vacuum that takes a lot of use, and moving the Sebo is practically indestructible.  The entire machine is certified to filter to HEPA standards, the hose is very easy to use, and as was mentioned already, removing hair from the brush is very easy to remove and clean.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Dysons crack, break, nick, and ding just like all the others on the market that are many dollars cheaper.  Technical instructions related to dyson make it a special point to caution about the use of care in disassembly and assembly lest the plastic components will break. 

Carmine D.

 

I also forgot to mention about the bags and filters.  The bags will last a long time, usually about a month each (they really do pack the dirt in well), and the filters are recommended to be changed "when discolored", meaning turning tan from the dirt.  This can be anywhere from a year to a year and a half.  The overall maintenance cost on the Sebo will actually be less than continually replacing those messy filters on the Hoover you have now.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Not quite DIB, you're a tad bit confused.  The Kirby Sentria was rated in the 4th and 5th spots in 2008 while dyson's DC17 was in the 7th and 9th places.  The other dyson models were rated and ranked in the middle of the field of all others. 

I believe you meant to quote reliability data which is not model specific, only brand.  Kirby is the best brand for reliability and has been for many years by Consumer Reports.  Dyson ranked second.  But, you have to remember that this was the very first time Consumer Reports gathered enough survey data to include dyson.  Consumer Reports makes alot of caveats about its reliability data.  For example, new brands, with less time and models in use among the consumers surveyed, tend to score better due to the inherent risks of the limited amount of the survey data associated with new brands.  CR advises readers that the reliability data is more meaningful when reviewed over time for consistency. 

Which?, a counterpart to CR in Europe, rated dyson vacuums as the most unreliable vacuum brand, both canisters [cylinders] and uprights for 7 of 8 consecutive years.  It was not until recently that dyson was able to get out from under all the other brands for the worse in reliability.

Carmine D.