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ainstalshia
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Original Message Dec 23, 2008 12:44 pm |
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CarmineD
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #31 Dec 25, 2008 7:46 am |
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Luxury is subjective. Lexus has an exceptionally smooth ride and an ultra quiet interior. That is luxury to me. Others consider a car to be luxurious simply because it is expensive. Some even go so far as to think luxury is having nitrogen in your tires.
Hey HS:
Some posters here consider a vacuum to be quality made simply because it is expensive. I say, and you do to [albeit after MOLE and I drilled it into you for the last 3 years], it's just overpriced, overhawked and overhyped. Like toyota's luxury brand name! I opine since nitrogen provides a smoother quieter ride, you include yourself in the latter category! Carmine D.
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #32 Dec 25, 2008 8:08 am |
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Hello MOLE: Did you mean Pro-Team XL21? ORECK upright and compact canister for $299? Buon natale, mi'amico. Carmine D. Hi Carmine. No i did not mean the oreck XL21,proteam is a vacuum company that sells commercial uprights and back packs sold at janitorial supply houses,This machine is the same as the sanitaire 6600,the electrolux commercial upright,Its the best bang for the buck vacuum out there,and its half the retail price of the latter mentioned machines.Its the best secret in the vacuum business,well up to now.98% of the proteams parts interchange with the aerus/electrolux commercial upright,remember the prolux ? Just so you know with all the infighting between the patents and using logos this product allmost never made it to the industry.Check out PULLMAN-HOLT also they have a variation of this machine also..... MOLE
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CarmineD
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #33 Dec 25, 2008 8:15 am |
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Hi Carmine.
No i did not mean the oreck XL21,proteam is a vacuum company that sells commercial uprights and back packs sold at janitorial supply houses MOLE
Hi MOLE:
I was being facetious! In his recent advertisments, Dave refers to the ORECK upright/canister duo as the Pro Team! Wonder where he got the idea for it! Pax tecum. Carmine D. PS: I remember the ProLux upright! The ProTeam [ProLux] earns the Carpet and Rug Institute of Approval/Recommendation. Canisters, backpack vacuums and uprights. http://www.pro-team.com/ http://www.carpet-rug.org/commercial-customers/cleaning-and-maintenance/seal-of-approval-products/soa-gl-vacuum-list.cfm?product_type=0&product_usage=0&manuf_id=0
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #34 Dec 25, 2008 8:36 am |
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Hi Carmine,
Does ORECK still feel that his non core business,such as irons,air cleaners,floor machines,etc, becoming a drag on company profits? With the economic situation being as it is maybe its time for a little re thinking of the market, Lets face the facts in order to save the company its time to lean things out a little,
The scamble is on, There are posters here that would love to see them fold,Just like hoover did.
MOLE
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #35 Dec 25, 2008 8:50 am |
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Hi MOLE: I agree there are some who would love to see ORECK fade away. These additional ORECK floorcare venues, even Air Purifiers, came along with the good times. In hard times, they drain and divert resources from the core ORECK lightweight upright operations and business. I would not be surprised at all if some of the floorcare venues are sold off. To retrench by reducing expenses and accumulating much needed cash. BTW an aside, I mentioned that the new casino that just opened was full of rumors of declaring bankruptcy even before the grand opening last month. I talked with one of the Corporate muckety mucks and specifically asked. She laughed at the question and said no way. I reminded her of the CFO's answers to interviews in September with the Bank heads/debt holders. She still denied the rumors. But wasn't laughing as hard. I opined the spring of 2009 after a couple of quarters of missed payments. This past week the casino owners and management asked for an extension on a line of credit. [Can't meet the $450 MILLION debt financing]. This is surely a precursor of bankruptcy filing and reorganization. I suspect the Corporate manager is/will be fired/laid off soon. Carmine D. |
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #37 Dec 25, 2008 10:11 am |
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CarmineD
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #38 Dec 26, 2008 7:41 am |
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Hi MOLE: Good questions and I'm not prepared to answer all now but I'll take a shot: Q... in your opinion are they part of the problem or part of the solution, Will they be going to uncle sam for a no questions asked like wall street for a BAILOUT. A: There are 6-9 casinos in question. These usually have at least 200 hotel rooms too. Required by Nevada law. All are franchised but individually owned. The newest is literally in our backyard. Beautiful property. All will seek reorganization under the bankruptcy laws, IMHO. Q. How many jobs are at stake? A. Not sure. Probably 10's of thousands. Many employees, like the dealers, cocktail waitresses, security, food servers, maintenance and cleanup staffs, sports books, cooks etc, will frequently work at more than one property. Q. Will they take the corporate jets to D.C. or go by greyhound? A. You've heard the expression: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." The government and private sector big wigs will fly/drive to LV. Naturally, first class/limosine with their staffs and entourages. Q. Should they just go belly up or be sold off for 10 cents on the dollar. A. The casinos will not go belly up. The bankruptcy filings will protect casino owners and management from their debtors and give the casinos much needed time and opportunities to survive. Some of the gaming stocks, many of which did very well in the good times, will actually become good buys at their low prices. And probably emerge in better financial condition after bankruptcy. Q. Does vegas have unemployment benefits. A. Yes, Nevada does. And should the state run out, and the unemployment rates stay high, the Federal government will pay out the unemployment benefits to the unemployed. Q. Is paulson a shareholder?????????? A. Might be! You may have heard that one of the Executive VP's of Fry's Electronics living in California embezzled money from the company to fund his heavy gambling and lifestyle here in Las Vegas. It's been known to happen even among men of the cloth.
Hope that answers, MOLE. On a postive note, the rank and file employees [for the most part Hispanic, Asian, Hawaiian, Guamanian, and Phillipine] that we know personally and professionally are weathering the storm well. They've had hours cut months ago, or even worse lost jobs, had to forego pay increases and more. But usually within a reasonable amount of time, they find employment and/or other sources to supplement income. For most, its the first time they've encountered bad times. They keep a healthy attitude and optimistic sprit. WRT the construction workers [the two big industries in Nevada are construction and gaming/entertainment] , it's much different. Also comprised of the same ethnic backrounds, they have taken it very hard. Many being forced to leave Nevada and head back to their countries of origin. BTW, you may have heard or read that several GM dealerships here in LV with network dealerships nationwide went belly up in the summer, before the small 3 of the big 3 went to Congress with tin cups. Carmine D.
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #39 Dec 26, 2008 7:47 am |
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Hi Venson:
Good articles. Nevada has always been on the leading edge of all the good economic indicators in the Country. So, not surprising, in a turn around, it is hardest hit. I'm licensed to bartend by the Nevada state authorities. But have not used the skills yet. Fortunately, my dear Wife and I also sold everything we had in the markets by August 2006, when I retired. Even tho the markets were still heading higher, we thought it was time to go. Bears make money. Bulls make money. Pigs get slaughtered. Whenever you're taking profits, it's a good thing and it was a good decision. Also on a positive note, monthly social security payouts increase 5.8 percent starting Jan 1. Helps the cause. Couple of extra big macs a month. Carmine D.
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Re: I need help choosing a new vacuum
Reply #40 Dec 26, 2008 9:19 am |
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Thanks Carmine, Great answers you could be right on the MONEY, When do you feel things will turn around?Or should we just get use to this and think that this is just the way its going to be. Has the GREATER society lost its soul???????? MOLE |
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