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jrw14493


Joined: Aug 3, 2008
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Decent Commercial Machine
Original Message   Nov 24, 2008 1:03 am
I'm looking for a decent commercial machine to be used in a commercial setting in a video arcade by 16 year old kids that are in a hurry to get off work. We've got a Royal all M1028 that they are in the process of destroying. So far we've fixed, a few times, the pot metal handle where it connects to the machine . They also don't care what is vacuumed up. Although we've taught them to steer clear of pennies and dimes, the occasional hard candy still makes it's presence known in the fan case.

Beings that the video arcade is loaded with electronics, we are having a hard time with dust collecting on the circuit boards inside the games. With frequent air handler filter changes, the dust is still collecting, so a commercial machine with a HEPA filter is what we're looking for. And durable, as I stated. A Bag-first machine would also of course probably be the best idea with wide tubes leading to it. Probably bags beings nobody would ever clean the filter. Anything else I'm forgetting....oh...durability = #1 and then of course something that doesn't stir up the dust.

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mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #1   Nov 24, 2008 6:57 am
I would go this route

1 BUY A GOAT
2 BUY A GOAT...................
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #2   Nov 24, 2008 7:12 am
I agree with MOLE.  If the teens can "destroy" an all metal Royal 1028Z, forget the rest of the uprights on the market today.  They'll go through them like Patton went through Bastogne.  The best ONE vacuum fits all for your needs is a no frills straight suction canister.  Like an indoor/outdoor and/or wet/dry vacuum.  They're inexpensive and durable.  May want to keep and allow adult use/supervision, of the Royal All Metal upright exclusively for the rugs.  In concert with the aforementioned canister for all the teen cleaning including the once over the rugs before the final royal vacuuming.

Many if not all of the Casinos here have arcades for the big and small kiddies.  The vacuum of choice is the commercial grade EUREKA upright Sanitaire.  The primary users are adults, who in no way are delicate with these machines during operation, but at least they exercise some common sense. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Nov 24, 2008 by CarmineD
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #3   Nov 24, 2008 7:26 am
Carmine, speaks as someone very familiar with this sceneio.

I will sell you a machine WITH NO IMPLIED WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,YOU BUY IT YOU OWN IT,

I WOULD OFFER YOU THE 30 FT 0R 30 SECOND WARRANTY,WHICH EVER COMES FIRST,Find someones that not afraid to bend down when vacuuming,

ITS A VACUUM CLEANER NOT A SHOVEL...........

MOLE
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #4   Nov 24, 2008 7:39 am
mole wrote:
I would go this route

1 BUY A GOAT
2 BUY A GOAT...................


Is Carmine for sale. 
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #5   Nov 24, 2008 7:48 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Is Carmine for sale. 

Hey H.S.

NEED A NEW JOB?

I dont believe Carmine wants to work in an arcade, even though he is a big kid  now,

i THINK THE PERFECT JOB FOR YOU IS THE PERSON ON THE FLOOR THAT MAKES CHANGE WITH THAT MACHINE STRAPPED TO HIS BELT,YOU KNOW THE DOLLAR BILL CHANGER,

Maybe you could be the restroom attendent and watch over the AIRBLADE

Take care

MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #6   Nov 24, 2008 7:54 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Is Carmine for sale. 



Hello HARDSELL:

Do you ask because a thief stole your shovel?  Or was it your DC07?  No, you sold your dyson.  Must be that you miss the shovel!  

I'm a retired vacuum industry consultant.  I'm for hire.  Not sale.  Too bad Sir you don't make enough even to pay just my per diem rates, let alone my hourly billing rate. 

BTW, when I first read this post, I thought of the Royal Eminence you bought with the proceeds of your DC07 sale.  Why?  Meets the poster's criteria: Tools on board for suction cleaning, by-pass dirt path for avoiding fan breakage if hard candy and coins are picked up, and bagged!  And probably trade the royal metal for the purchase with a royal dealer.  Unfortunately no vacuum, regardless of brand make, model, and price, is teen proof. 

MOLE:

You're right.  I enjoy the arcades as much as the kids, which I consider myself to be [old kid, HS, not to be confused with young goat!].

Carmine D.

This message was modified Nov 24, 2008 by CarmineD
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #7   Nov 24, 2008 8:08 am
H.s. dID YOU LOSE YOUR SHIRT ON THE TITANS, SOME TEAM THOSE JETS WITH OLD MAN FARVE,HE,HE,HE, WHAT A SPANKIN,

MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #8   Nov 24, 2008 8:14 am
mole wrote:

Maybe you [HS] could be the restroom attendent and watch over the AIRBLADE

MOLE


And keep the AB wells clean/free from bacteria build ups and stains.  The well is a poor design/function feature on the AB hand dryer.  In fact the whole AB shape, form and design is not conducive to public restrooms like all the other wall mounted units.  Does anyone know the answer to M00seUK's question about the new smaller AB model?  Does this new future AB scrub the well? 

BTW, HS, dyson may even hire you as an expert for the National Sanitation Foundation.  You can join the ranks of the independent business consultants.  Then you can play golf with clients and write off the costs of your new clubs as a business expense!  Unlike me, who is a kid and too young to play golf, you're an old goat!  You qualify.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Nov 24, 2008 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #9   Nov 24, 2008 4:09 pm
mole wrote:
H.s. dID YOU LOSE YOUR SHIRT ON THE TITANS, SOME TEAM THOSE JETS WITH OLD MAN FARVE,HE,HE,HE, WHAT A SPANKIN,

MOLE



I never lose on the Titans.  The sooner the Titans, Bud Adams and Bredesen go the better.

I was disappointed that UT beat Vandy.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #10   Nov 24, 2008 4:12 pm
CarmineD wrote:
And keep the AB wells clean/free from bacteria build ups and stains.  The well is a poor design/function feature on the AB hand dryer.  In fact the whole AB shape, form and design is not conducive to public restrooms like all the other wall mounted units.  Does anyone know the answer to M00seUK's question about the new smaller AB model?  Does this new future AB scrub the well? 

BTW, HS, dyson may even hire you as an expert for the National Sanitation Foundation.  You can join the ranks of the independent business consultants.  Then you can play golf with clients and write off the costs of your new clubs as a business expense!  Unlike me, who is a kid and too young to play golf, you're an old goat!  You qualify.

Carmine D.


You are the expert.  You know. ex=has been and spurt = a drip under pressure.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #11   Nov 24, 2008 6:11 pm
HS:
Here is the etymology of the word according to Webster's Dictionary:    "Ex" is an abbreviation for "example'' and "spurt" is a forceful gush.  Putting the two together, you undoubtedly are saying that I am an example of a forceful gush.  I graciously accept and thank you for your compliment!   While I have been called such on many occasions [like now by you] I never refer to myself as such.  To do so diminishes the value and the meaning.  It must come from others.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Nov 24, 2008 by CarmineD
Vacuuman


The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

Location: Denver
Joined: Aug 15, 2007
Points: 82

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #12   Nov 25, 2008 1:46 am
I would say get a Windsor Versamatic. 
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #13   Nov 25, 2008 7:04 am
Vacuuman wrote:
I would say get a Windsor Versamatic. 



Here is a Web Site link for the above, a good choice, but by no means teens' proof.  Rated commercial grade but very very pricey.  Also approved by the Carpet and Rug Insititute and the vacuum choice of many industrial cleaners for hospitals, restaurants, office buildings, churches, cinemas, and the like. 

http://www.windsorind.com/products/index.php?id=1.012-034.0

Carmine D.

This message was modified Nov 25, 2008 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #14   Nov 25, 2008 8:31 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:
Here is the etymology of the word according to Webster's Dictionary:    "Ex" is an abbreviation for "example'' and "spurt" is a forceful gush.  Putting the two together, you undoubtedly are saying that I am an example of a forceful gush.  I graciously accept and thank you for your compliment!   While I have been called such on many occasions [like now by you] I never refer to myself as such.  To do so diminishes the value and the meaning.  It must come from others.

Carmine D.


A definition of gush:  a rapid outpouring of anything.  In your case it would be BS.

A definition of spurt:  to expel in a stream.  In your case it is diarrhea or the mouth.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #15   Nov 25, 2008 9:13 am
HARDSELL wrote:

A definition of spurt:  to expel in a stream. 


HARDSELL wrote:
and spurt = a drip under pressure.



Hello HARDSELL:

Another example of the HARDSELL flip flop.  Two different days, two different says.  You can't get your facts straight from one day to the next.  Typical.  After praising your free dyson DC07 for years, you sell it, and buy a bagged Royal Emminence .  Say what was that about BS of the mouth and mind?  I'm hearing that loud sucking sound again.

Carmine D.

jrw14493


Joined: Aug 3, 2008
Points: 7

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #16   Nov 26, 2008 7:23 pm
(((edited because there's no point)))
This message was modified Nov 26, 2008 by jrw14493
Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #17   Dec 5, 2008 3:51 pm
Sebo x4 is great
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #18   Jan 18, 2009 7:00 am
Did you ever buy a vacuum?

The Sebo/Windsor comes as close to being teen proof as any vacuum can be:

1) It cannot be operated w/o bag or filter, or while clogged

2) The belt cannot be broken

3) It is easily dissembled for de-clogging

4) It signals the need for a new brush roller

5) The brush roller can be removed easily w/o any tools

6) To break it would require serious intent, the likes of which would bregrounds for dismissal

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #19   Jan 18, 2009 8:53 am

Trebor wrote:

I worked for a large and growing appliance electronics retailer. Each store goes through six or more household bagless vacuums per year. I suggested that they move to backpacks and vacuum daily, not at night, but in the morning before the store opened to pick up all the debris and dust that settled at night, thus saving the effort and expense of daily dustmopping which puts a large quanity of dust back into the air, and stopping the practice of putting at least six vacuums per year into the landfills.
Hi Trebor:
Would you recommend a back pack vacuum[s] for the teens' use in the Arcades?
Carmine D.
This message was modified Jan 18, 2009 by CarmineD
jrw14493


Joined: Aug 3, 2008
Points: 7

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #20   Jan 19, 2009 4:01 pm
Trebor-

The owner is under the complete idea that nothing is better than an all-metal vacuum. My grandma has a Sebo and I use it regularly. I like it and I bet it would fare well in the arcade. It wouldn't be pretty after the first few uses but it bet it would still work. 

Thanks for all the recommendations guys! If the topic ever comes up again with the owner, I'll make the recommendation.

Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #21   Jan 19, 2009 6:43 pm
A LOT of enthusiastic backpack proponents thought the same until they gave them a try. U of Colorado spent in excess of 40,K per YEAR, buying , replacing, and repairing, upright  vacs, some of them all metal. The year of the switch, aside from initial outlay, the total maitenance costs were under 600.00!

All great truths begin as heresies

Vacuuman


The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

Location: Denver
Joined: Aug 15, 2007
Points: 82

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #22   Jan 19, 2009 9:00 pm
I just have to ask, are you from Boulder CO?
Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

Re: Decent Commercial Machine
Reply #23   Jan 22, 2009 2:17 am
No, I from the midwest, Ft Wayne, IN to be precise. the balnce sheet for repairs for two t\years wer on the Pro-team website
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