Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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Hi DIB,

What is brilliance? The Hula Hoop, the Cabbage Patch Doll and the Pet Rock made a lot of money for the folks who thought them up.  That as remarkable ingenuity as I've ever witnessed.

There are still other vacuum makers who diligently strive to provide quality product and appear to be prospering because there are people who gladly buy them.  I appreciate your enthusiasm but Dyson is not and never will be running the only game in town. It's all a mattter of choice.  The best vacuum is the one your happy to make frequent use of.

As well, originality remains a moot point as, like beauty, its all in the eye of the beholder.  If "cyclonics" is the subject I don't necessarily think of Dyson first.  I think of Filter Queen, maybe not to you the perfect instance, that took its user a long way when it came to lasting, usable cleaning power and could probably even plead the case in regard to Electrolux's Model XXX.  I think of central vacs that used the full-blown idea back as far as what feels like Year One.  If Dyson fine-tuned the idea, shrunk it to portable machine size  -- plus made some money -- wonderful.  Nonetheless, there are other companies that bear large and equally illustrious histories by way of less unique product without much dispute over who had first dibs on the cloth dust bag.  The only original "vacuum cleaner" will probably be the one that snatches up dirt and disintegrates it with no moving parts involved.

In regard to what's interesting, though I am a great lover of science, I am interested in any vacuum that promotes thorough cleaning with minimum effort and maintenance.  That's still a dream waiting to be realized.  Though we may now dump our clothing into automatic washers and put the dinner dishes in our dishwashers and walk away, vacuuming remains nearly as labor-intensive as working with a broom and dust cloth.  So far Roomba is the visionary leader in the area of at least lessening the effort of floor cleaning and Dyson and everyone else has long way to go.  However . . .

My main concern, as I stated, is the lack of clear explanations of how products work or don't work  -- in court or out.  Since the makers of appliances and those who sell them, no matter who, are all mortals just like us I think we may safely assume as my beloved Aunt Lucy used to say, "Their mouths aren't prayer books and their backsides aren't stack of bibles."  Therefore, some skepticism and questioning are never out of order until some sort of requirement by law regarding accuracy of description is firmly set in place.

Venson

Carmine D.

The price should be determined by the quality of the rebuild,who does the rebuilding,the reputation of the rebuilder,Is there a difference between rebuilt and reconditioned?

There is alaways the customer that only buys NEW, Has anyone on the forum ever used the KIRBY rebuild policy, They are without a dought the best in the business at this.Aerus/formerly electrolux,had a factory rebuild program,i've seen model XXX, model G's, model L'S, its a shame they dont do it anymore,i quess this is called progress?

Anyone remember the metropolitan rebuilt luxes?, Model R's, with new paint,attachments,hose,with 2 year warranty parts and labor for 69.95.

MOLE

I took a shot at a response.  Let me know what you think.

Carmine D.

A little food for thought,whats wrong with rebuilt vacuums that are rebuilt right with a warranty just as good as when they are new?.Are repacks reconditioned?

The price should be determined by the quality of the rebuild,who does the rebuilding,the reputation of the rebuilder,Is there a difference between rebuilt and reconditioned?

There is alaways the customer that only buys NEW, Has anyone on the forum ever used the KIRBY rebuild policy, They are without a dought the best in the business at this.Aerus/formerly electrolux,had a factory rebuild program,i've seen model XXX, model G's, model L'S, its a shame they dont do it anymore,i quess this is called progress?

Anyone remember the metropolitan rebuilt luxes?, Model R's, with new paint,attachments,hose,with 2 year warranty parts and labor for 69.95.

MOLE

Thanks MOLE for the post with the information and questions.

Carmine D.

Hi MOLE:

Auction houses in the 50's and 60's on the Jersey shore would sell the Metro rebulit lux 30's as new in a box for whatever they could get.  If the buyers ever looked at the underside of the Lux [after it was out of the box], they would see the Metro rebuilt paste on labels.  Some never did see the labels until I pointed it out.  Lux tried to put an end to it, but couldn't.   

Carmine D. 

I certainly wouldn't class IRobot's Roomba as lessening the effort of floor cleaning. They need quite a lot of hands-on maintenance to keep the brushes free from hairs which can cause the bearings and gear boxes to knacker up. The cheap plastic that makes up the Roomba seems to attract the dust excessively. Carpet fluff gets into inaccessible areas; you have to hoover it out. Complete waste of time. It is basically a motorised carpet sweeper, with a separate suction intake.

No, if you want a decent robot cleaner, the Electrolux Trilobite is a much cleaner machine. All the fluff released by the agitator goes up the suction tube, because the suction port is within the agitator cavity. The Trilobite's plastic seems to be far more anti-static than the Roomba's. The Trilobite has a far better filter system too.