Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Wonder if there are any signs of a new vacuum coming out from Dyson?  I here there is some new product due to launch end of 2007 and early 2008!  Not sure what!

It's about time they launched the Dyson Digital Motor into other vacuums (not just the DC12 in Japan!).  More and more vacuums in the UK are copying the dual and root cyclone technology as well!

The DC14 has had a re-launch into the new colours in the UK:

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Venson,
My reference to black-hearted was aimed at thieves. Knowingly buying stolen merchandise or stolen property is too black-hearted. Good folk do not knowingly buy stolen merchandise. My belief and what I have heard from eBayer’s is, most eBayer's do not know or want to know the source of NIB merchandise.

Recent news on Dyson’s being stolen...
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/NEWS01/809240375/1043/NEWS01

Mole,
I have no problem with mom and pop sized corporations nor do I have a problem with multibillion dollar corporations. As I have said before, innovation and playing fair is what I look for in people and businesses. I do enjoy pointing out (over and over) the lack of talent for innovation at most of these billion plus dollar corporations (vacuum manufacturers). It is quite funny to watch.

DIB

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

Remember vacuums, if they are good, eat and store dirt.  That's about as down and dirty as you can get for a product!  Some companies use pretty colors [dyson] and/or false claims [halo].  ORECK uses giveaways.  In the scheme of marketing, most value conscious buyers would take the latter rather than the former.

Carmine D.

Camine, You and i both know that when oreck first came into the main stream vacuum dealers, the dealers looked at the machine and said to themselves LOOSER, this can not be denied.H.S. has a real valid point,premiums given away to sell a product is hiding the real cost.

Granted Dave and Co, have done what was not expected by the vacuum experts, The monster has been created and can not be stopped by either the vacuum industry or vacuum experts. Orecks market is liteweight and for the consumer that likes the made in U.S.A mantra. Although they should tell the public where the parts come from,its only assembled here in the states.

Yes H.S. i agree its the best 49.95 vacuum out there''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

MOLE

Motorhead / Carmine, thanks for the replies on self-propelled. It does sound complicated, but I guess no more so than was required of the design of the ball / undercarriage arrangement in Dyson’s DC15. Sounds like there are still a few years to go until contract cleaners can be replaced by robots! The commercial sector offers Dyson huge potential for growth, but they’ve yet to make an impact on the tried and tested. It would be a similar challenge as selling high priced hand driers.

I have to admire Dave Oreck in part. Although I have respect for continual product development, he’s certainly been able to successfully hold on to a certain part of the market for a long time.

In the early days of Dyson in the UK, they didn’t do any advertising at all. They quickly worked with having a disruptive product and being PR savvy brought good returns. They only really ramped up the TV commercials and went on the offensive when the dual cyclone infringing competitor, Hoover triple vortex went on the market (in around 2000, as I recall). Since then, within the sea of bag-less competitors, they’ve needed to reinforce in the minds of the buyer, the unique aspects their products offer.

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

I don't disagree with you and HS:  Giveaways cost the buyer in some way, shape or form.  The question, as a potential buyer of the product, becomes: Do you want to pay/not pay for the giveaways.  Either way, ORECK gives buyers options with/w-o the giveaways. 

Alternatively, buyers shopping for lightweight vacuums have options:  The stand alone ORECK XL Classic at $199 on sale [w/o the giveaways]; RICCAR-SIMPLICITY for $350-$$450 [MSRP]; and/or dyson DC24 for $399 [MSRP].  Even used ORECK XL's, if the buyer is so inclined, can be had for as little as $100 at ORECK stores.  ORECK is competitive with the others.  Tho, ORECK, you would agree, is the original: The Grand Daddy of them all! 

The Federal Trade Commission [FTC] oversees companies using the label Made in the USA.  Recently, the Feds tightened the legal requirements.  By law, to use the label MADE IN THE USA, the FTC requires that  'all or virtually all' significant parts and processing are of US origin.  I'm told all or vitually all means at least 80 percent of the product components.  Companies must be able to back up the claim with proof else suffer the consequences.  

Carmine D.