Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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Hi DIB,

Your point is well taken but the Devil is in the details.  I think the better a thing is described the more clearly it is explained -- wherever.  Of course, I do not in any way imagine that persons involved in debating like issues in a court of law spend a great deal of time opining the finite detail of the mechanics of a vacuum cleaner or using one for that matter.  However, whether the comparison is to natural phenomenon or popular brand, I'd much prefer they eased off euphemistic reference and leaned on basic physics more. 

The big problem is that myriad brands are taking on the term "cyclonic" -- which can be owned by no one -- and all should be expected to well explain how the term applies to their product lest the public be mislead.

Venson

Hi DIB,

What is brilliance? The Hula Hoop, the Cabbage Patch Doll and the Pet Rock made a lot of money for the folks who thought them up.  That as remarkable ingenuity as I've ever witnessed.

There are still other vacuum makers who diligently strive to provide quality product and appear to be prospering because there are people who gladly buy them.  I appreciate your enthusiasm but Dyson is not and never will be running the only game in town. It's all a mattter of choice.  The best vacuum is the one your happy to make frequent use of.

As well, originality remains a moot point as, like beauty, its all in the eye of the beholder.  If "cyclonics" is the subject I don't necessarily think of Dyson first.  I think of Filter Queen, maybe not to you the perfect instance, that took its user a long way when it came to lasting, usable cleaning power and could probably even plead the case in regard to Electrolux's Model XXX.  I think of central vacs that used the full-blown idea back as far as what feels like Year One.  If Dyson fine-tuned the idea, shrunk it to portable machine size  -- plus made some money -- wonderful.  Nonetheless, there are other companies that bear large and equally illustrious histories by way of less unique product without much dispute over who had first dibs on the cloth dust bag.  The only original "vacuum cleaner" will probably be the one that snatches up dirt and disintegrates it with no moving parts involved.

In regard to what's interesting, though I am a great lover of science, I am interested in any vacuum that promotes thorough cleaning with minimum effort and maintenance.  That's still a dream waiting to be realized.  Though we may now dump our clothing into automatic washers and put the dinner dishes in our dishwashers and walk away, vacuuming remains nearly as labor-intensive as working with a broom and dust cloth.  So far Roomba is the visionary leader in the area of at least lessening the effort of floor cleaning and Dyson and everyone else has long way to go.  However . . .

My main concern, as I stated, is the lack of clear explanations of how products work or don't work  -- in court or out.  Since the makers of appliances and those who sell them, no matter who, are all mortals just like us I think we may safely assume as my beloved Aunt Lucy used to say, "Their mouths aren't prayer books and their backsides aren't stack of bibles."  Therefore, some skepticism and questioning are never out of order until some sort of requirement by law regarding accuracy of description is firmly set in place.

Venson

Carmine D.

The price should be determined by the quality of the rebuild,who does the rebuilding,the reputation of the rebuilder,Is there a difference between rebuilt and reconditioned?

There is alaways the customer that only buys NEW, Has anyone on the forum ever used the KIRBY rebuild policy, They are without a dought the best in the business at this.Aerus/formerly electrolux,had a factory rebuild program,i've seen model XXX, model G's, model L'S, its a shame they dont do it anymore,i quess this is called progress?

Anyone remember the metropolitan rebuilt luxes?, Model R's, with new paint,attachments,hose,with 2 year warranty parts and labor for 69.95.

MOLE

I took a shot at a response.  Let me know what you think.

Carmine D.

A little food for thought,whats wrong with rebuilt vacuums that are rebuilt right with a warranty just as good as when they are new?.Are repacks reconditioned?

The price should be determined by the quality of the rebuild,who does the rebuilding,the reputation of the rebuilder,Is there a difference between rebuilt and reconditioned?

There is alaways the customer that only buys NEW, Has anyone on the forum ever used the KIRBY rebuild policy, They are without a dought the best in the business at this.Aerus/formerly electrolux,had a factory rebuild program,i've seen model XXX, model G's, model L'S, its a shame they dont do it anymore,i quess this is called progress?

Anyone remember the metropolitan rebuilt luxes?, Model R's, with new paint,attachments,hose,with 2 year warranty parts and labor for 69.95.

MOLE

Thanks MOLE for the post with the information and questions.

Carmine D.