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Venson


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Arm & Hammer "Fresh Ins" . . .
Original Message   Aug 7, 2008 10:57 am
Good morning all,

I just came across what appears to be a press release regarding, Fresh Ins packets that contain scented baking soda crystals.  Arm & Hammer already produces a bunch of deodorizing disposable bags plus filters for many brands of vacs.  The claim in regard to Fresh Ins is that the product can be dumped into any vacuum, bagged or bagless, to neutralize pet odor and has twice the dedorizing power of Arm & Hammer's bags.  Per the article, the packets sell for about $2.50 for nine packets. Link is here -- http://www.courant.com/features/home/hc-faqpetfresh.artaug06,0,7643952.story?track=rss

Nice idea but I also liked the company provision for info through its "Jill's Secret Solutions" page -- http://armandhammer.com/default.aspx?ITEMID=4  There are all sorts of tips on how to use just plain old cheap baking soda around the house.

One of Jill's ideas is to go directly to the source and give dogs a deodorizing dry bath, sprinkle it on-brush it out, with baking soda.  I also suggest IF you have a quiet vacuum with hose, try vacuuming Rover.  DO NOT use tools with moving parts like air-powered turbo tools, etc.  DO USE a straight suction upholstery tool or dusting brush with the suction relief open or motor speed reduced and stay away from your animals ears and head. 

Your cat or dog of course has to go for the idea and it should not be forced on them.  However, if you've got an animal that likes a thrill, the feel of cool air pulling through its fur as you give it a going over is quite enjoyable.  I remember that my dog began to fall out on the floor waiting to be done with the bare floor tool just about every time I turned the cleaner on.  This is also helpful in that the fur and dandruff you dislodge goes straight into the vacuum. Regular grooming of any kind may help reduce reduce the amount of shed hair and dander you have to tackle come cleaning day.

Best,

Venson

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CarmineD


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Re: Arm & Hammer "Fresh Ins" . . .
Reply #19   Aug 9, 2008 2:19 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

Do you have any knowlegde of how well single-ply knock-offs made to fit Electrolux did back in the day as opposed to the genuine article?

Venson



Hi Venson:

The lux replacements were terrible.  I wouldn't use them and/or sell them in my store.  Strictly genuines for the Luxes back in my day.  Even if customers asked for a cheaper bag brand, I wouldn't sell.  I always sold them by the pack, not individually. 

They may have gotten now. 

Carmine D.

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Re: Arm & Hammer "Fresh Ins" . . .
Reply #20   Aug 14, 2008 5:14 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson:

It appears that you have to contact an A&H person to get a price quote on a particular brand, unless of course you find them in the retailers.  From reading the claims by A&H, the bags/filters are outstanding.   A&H is making the vacuum bags and filters a mainstay venue for its operations.  I'm curious to hear the opinions from the indies about the quality and performace of the A&H bags/filters if they have experience using and selling.

Carmine D. 


Walmart sells A&H vacuum cleaner bags and filters for many different brands.  HOOVER, Eueka, and DD taking most of the space.  At one time, I did recall seeing ORECK bags.  These were for the older uprights that did not have the docking port.  They were priced slightly higher than other bags like HOOVER Windtunnel.  They were about the same as the Pet Fresh bags.  I want to say they were about $6.99approx. for a 3pk., but I could be wrong.

Electrolux Homecare is the maker of these bags and filters.  They are using the A&H name.  The same w/ Homecare using the Honeywell name.  These bags are high quality.  I believe they are using a new technology.  What I do not like about their filters is that they are not washable.  Washing the filter will decrease the effectiveness of the baking soda.  The name brand filters of many vacuum cleaners use washable filters that will last a couple of years.  I believe the A&H brand says to replace between 6-12 mos.

Another thing I do not like about these brands is now they can charge a higher price for the bags/filters compared to the previous generic.  So, you could have purchased Homecare microlined bags for $3.50+.  Now, under the Honeywell name, the bags will cost you $5.99.
This message was modified Aug 14, 2008 by Mike_W
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Re: Arm & Hammer "Fresh Ins" . . .
Reply #21   Aug 14, 2008 5:36 am
Venson wrote:

Do you have any knowlegde of how well single-ply knock-offs made to fit Electrolux did back in the day as opposed to the genuine article?


Generic vacuum cleaner bags, from the past, were very bad.  They were thin, filtered worse than name brand and sometimes were not made-to-fit properly.  In the 70's I had a Electrolux 1205.  I used generic multiply bags that performed very well.  I set the automatic control so that it would shut off at 3/4 full.  I found some generic, cheap bags.  They were horrible.  They were thin and single-ply.  There was no membrane dirt seal at the bag opening.  When the controls were set at the same as w/the multiply bags, the vacuum would shut off at 1/4 full.  Those bags were never used again.

Generic bags have changed, for the better, compared to years ago.  If the microlined bags, or better, are used,  filtration is pretty good.  Envirocare bags are another brand of generics that perform very well. 

Some brands of vacuum cleaners just perform better if genuine is used.  FQ is one that performed better w/ genuine cones.  They fit perfectly and filter much better.
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Re: Arm & Hammer "Fresh Ins" . . .
Reply #22   Aug 14, 2008 5:50 am
There are some very good replacement filter bags on the market today, It seems envirocare is leading the field for now, they are a excellent replacement bag for the big name machines,

The best replacement lux bags were the V.C.B brand,triple filtered,glued at the bottom [never broke open], coupling and seal was as good as the oem bag and sometimes even fit better,

The perfect lux cloth type filtrete bags have proven to even outflow the oem aerus/lux bags. There are many on this forum that can attest to what i;ve said.I use these in my silverardo and the machine really picked up more airflow and runs cooler.

MOLE
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