Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Were debating whether to carry built in systems. It is not our expertise but we are being asked if we carry them. Soooo what would be your choice of ONE brand to carry if you did and what would be you "go to model" for a recommendation. We have noticed that people who come in and say they HATE their system usually have the "builders cheepo special" and the ones who like their system have the most expensive ones. Sorry this post doesn't have anything to do with Dyson? LOL

Hello Lucky1:

The CVS installers will be of two types and/or a combination of both:  First, the CVS that are put in during the home construction and their pricing structure.  Second, the CVS that are put in after the homes are built and their pricing structure.  The latter are more time consuming and more expensive to install.  You may get a CVS installer[s] who give[s] you an average rate for all CVS installations regardless of whether its pre/post home completion.  Probably, the more CVS units you have for installations, the better the install rate per unit.

Carmine D.

Hi Lucky1,
When finding a good installer, you need to know the following,do they liability insurance,or do you , A good installer can do 1 or 2 full installs [existing construction] a day. When the jobs are within a reasonable distance from each other. Most installers work direct with the customer and charge per valve material and labor,Lets say new construction 125 to 150 per valve this price should include going back and finishing the job to completion, The installer will go and spike the job[rough in] after the plumbing and electricians are done roughing their part,the installer will go back before the drywallers get there to finish his job.

As far as pricing the jobs you can quote pricing for new or existing construction, you can pay the installer per valve,either your material or his material plus his price to you per valve.A good installer will go to look at the job first to see what hes up against and give an honest quote[sometimes less sometimes more] if you do it this way you should never take a bath on any job,

Supervalves or electra valves have to be wired by an electrician,installers are not suppose to wire these valves,but on the other hand the customer can come in and buy the supervalves from you,after that you have no clue who's installing these.

You are more than capable to do your own service calls and repairs,why give the money to the installers ,unless of course you have set up something different in advance.

This market is all to itself and when the customer wants it its just up to you to sell it,I will tell you that the pricing is very competetive,and you have to find that little edge,,,,,,

GOOD LUCK,

And welcome to the club.......

MOLE

mole wrote:

Lucky1:

MOLE is right and certainly something to consider.  Some existing vacuum store owners and/or operators do their own CVS sales and installs, like MOLE.  Ideally, partnering with an existing store owner/operator on CVS sales referrals/installs is one way to start out.  Then as you acquire more knowledge and CVS business, you can venture out on your own. 

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

Yes we do it all in house,from do it yourself kits to complete installations,our 2 installers have been with us a long time, both great installers ,they do both new and existing construction,

I still like doing my own service calls,just to keep busy,talking with the customers,getting hot leads,etc,ect,

Now im selling machines to their kids,man i'm getting old,its so easy it's not like work anymore it's just playtime..........

MOLE

mole wrote:

Wait until you start selling to the 3rd and 4th generations, God willing!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

I'm no exert here but what Dyson looks like to me is markettng.

With as much money as they invest into ads, brochures, and design I find it quite easy to believe vacuum cleaner salesmen when they tell me that Dyson is not the way to go.

Tech

techphet wrote:

Oreck is marketing.  Dyson is performance.  I am sure that a lot of the Dyson price is due to advertising.  Most of the Oreck price is the freebies that come with the vacuum.

I imagine that the salesmen telling you it is not the way to go do not sell them.  I have yet to have a salesman tell me that it is not the way to go ( if they are available in the store).

Have you tried one.

HARDSELL wrote:

ORECK and dyson do not offer CVS models.  ORECK never has in the USA after 45 plus years.  Dyson probably never will as a vacuum industry newcomer in the USA, IMHO. 

BTW Lucky1, if you didn't already know, the VDTA has a group called the Central Vacuum Advisory Council with a link on its Web Site devoted to the issue of CVS with a monthly publication:

http://www.vdta.com/Magazines/JUL08/cv-toc-jul08.html  

I believe the CVS Council has been in existence for about 8 years while the VDTA is over 25 years old.  The Council was originally tasked to bring some of the Canadian enthusiasm for CVS to the USA.  You'll probably have to be a member to access some of the news and articles, but it may be worth the cost.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

No sheet.  This was started by one of your comments.

Not my kill.  Lucky1 started this thread on CVS.  Very interesting too.  I have to install a CVS in my daughter and son-in-law's home [over 3000sq ft].  This thread was very topical and timely.  Haven't gotten to it yet.  Probably in the fall after this hot weather is behind us in LV.  Looking forward to it now!  Unit will be in the garage.  Should be a snap since all the piping, outlets and kitchen sweep are in already.  Haven't found a local dealer yet who sells CVS.  And I did not want to buy off the internet if I can find a local dealer.

Carmine D.