Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I was just watching my Fantom Fury video (have the video, not the machine though I was obsessed with them as a teenager) and it said that if the dirt in the chamber ever stopped spinning, the user should check the machine for a clog. 

My Dyson DC14 actually has baffles in the dirt chamber that inhibit spinning of the dirt.  When I vacuum with it, the dirt just kind of lays in the chamber without moving.  The cat hair usually gets stuck on the baffles, and the heavier sand falls to the back of the chamber as the reclined position of the handle would dictate. 

Vacuumfreeeke wrote:

Hey VF:

That dubious distinction goes to the DC 11 canister for $499 which lasted 5 months in the USA: From April 2004 to September 2004.  The official dyson death notice is Feb 2005, making it a 9 month run.  Shortest product run in US vacuum history.   But by Feb 2005, most retailers culled them from their shelves and collectors were scarfing up for $50-$100 as repacks and refurbs.   Many DC11-s were returned within the first week of purchase. 

It's biggest problem, not counting the weight and bulk, was a poorly designed and functioning power head.  Not made for USA rugs.  Brush bar typically stopped, hiccuped, and stalled going over low pile carpets if the users applied the slightest pressure.  Persons could easily stop the brush bar using the fingers/palm of their hand [as MOLE mentioned to you] and keep it stopped.  Not good for deep down rug cleaning.  Just straight suction surface dirt cleaner.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

If I thought it outcleaned the DC07 I would have kept it.  The Boss does a very job of cleaning carpet.  I fails miserably on hard floor surfaces.  The exhaust blows more dirt / dust than it vacuums on these surfaces.

I have medium pile with extra thick padding and the DC07 never stalled or ratcheded on it.  Remember the Boss claim is only on thicker carpet.

I did use the DC07 on some very plush wool carpet in a home that I inherited and did not have any problems.  The carpet was probably 30 plus years old. 

"Plush" is the word EUREKA uses for the claim comparing the $150 Boss Smart Vacuum to the $400 DC07.  BTW, in every Consumer Reports that rates vacuums and includes the EUREKA BOSS Smart Vacuum,  the BOSS rates an "Excellent" for performance on Bare floors.  You claim it failed miserably.  Interesting?  Did you set the BOSS to the bare floor adjustment? 

Interesting too, based on your lone perspective, that dyson never ever contests the EUREKA claim and/or offers its own test findings to contradict EUREKA's claim.  Why?  HAs to have a reason[s].  Wouldn't you think?

Dyson shows it is not shy about officially filing to dispute claims by other makers which put dyson in a poor [read humiliating] light.  Of course, now the ASA ruling eliminates any doubt that the Electrolux Intensity [MSRP in the US is $299] has 50 percent more suction at the brush roll [with a full paper bag that needs changing] than a DC14. 

BTW, the recent ASA ruling certainly gives alot of credence [read truth] to VF's findings and conclusions about a DC14 vice a bagless BISSELL Cleanview.  The $60 BISSELL Cleanview outcleans the more expensive dyson [after VF's assurance and actions that his DC14 is running properly].  Why?  BISSELL has a better brush roll?  A rug height adjustment?  Both?   Perhaps a BISSELL has more suction [at the brush roll] than a DC14?  Like the Intensity?  Surely it can't be the BISSELL headlight! 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:  
The BISSELL,bagged or bagless clear view or  cleanview,whatever your choice, have the same brushrollor and belt set up as a hoover tempo,[the bearing caps on the bissell are different]

For a big box $ 69.95er, this machine cleans and grooms the rug as good as any vacuum out there at any price,if the machine is maintained right,new belt every 6 months,filter washed or changed per manufactures specs,this a great bang for the buck vacuum, it's about the only good thing that bissell makes...............

MOLE

Hey there MOLE:

Interesting.  I knew BISSELL with the HEALTHY HOME copied the HOOVER WT brush roll but didn't realize it copied the HOOVER TEMPO brush roll too!   Why not?  Why reinvent the wheel? If there is one already that is praise and performance worthy, then go for it.  Might as well take advantage of the best the industry has to offer.  Ironically, I believe all these models have received Consumer Reports' Best Buys for vacuums and/or ranked in the top ten.  Must be the brush roll!!!  EUREKA!!!!

I'm sorry I missed the VDTA exhibit on vacuum brush rolls in the industry through the years.  I'm sure it was valuable.  Especially for any youngins who missed the evolution of the brush roll [read: facts and circumstances] by the nature of their age. 

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

What a POS.  I can't  believe that the filter requires maintenance or replacement.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

You can always remove the dirty filter and toss it.  Use the vacuum w/o it.  Then, when the vacuum quits running, buy a new one for $60 [that's the cost of the pre and post motor filters for your fave brand].  And the BISSELL does a better cleaning job on rugs, since it uses a HOOVER brush roll. 

At that rate you can buy 6 new BISSELL Cleanviews over the course of 6 plus years for $360 and have enough money left over for a some lattes at STARBUCKS and some big Macs at McDonalds.  No bags, no filters, no belts.  No maintenance save dirt bin dumping.  No extra costs after purchase. 

As my Jewish Aunt use to say:  Such a deal!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

You didn't know what brush roll it had before mole told you.  Now in your lone opinion it out performs everything.  The amusing thing is that it is better than an $800 Oreck.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

Not true, on both accounts.  I'm accepting the experiences related by VF and his friend along with the recent ASA ruling upholding the Electrolux Intensity [MSRP $299] claim that it has 50 percent more suction at the brush roll [with a full bag] than a dyson DC14 [MSRP $439]. 

First, VF said his friend's $60 bagless BISSELL Cleanview outperformed a DC14 dyson for rug cleaning.  MOLE added it is likely the brush roll that beats a dyson DC14 in a match off for rug cleaning.  Opining that the BISSELL brush roll is an exact copy of the HOOVER TEMPO [MSRP $60 typically a Consumer Reports BEST BUY and top 10 rated upright].  CR recommended the HOOVER TEMPO lightweight over the DC18 Slim [MSRP $469] in a match off.  While I don't have any personal experience with a BISSELL Cleanview bagless, I do with the bagged HOOVER TEMPO.  It's a steal for $60 and will match up worthily in performance with any of today's brands costing 8-10 times more.  I agree with MOLE and understand his reasons for complimenting the BISSELL.  It's the brush roll! [no mention of stupid]. 

Second, the $740 ORECK [with a 21 year warranty] is typically rated around 10-12  in the field of Consumer Reports tested uprights.  This is is much better than all the BISSELL-s, save the HEALTHY HOME [$250], which makes the top 10.  Tho, the BISSELL bagless models [MSRP $60-$90] have been rated a CR BEST BUY. 

Carmine D.

The funny thing is that I actually wanted my Dyson to outperform any other cleaner I tried it against... I like it.  I'm not anti-Dyson.  It wouldn't surprise me if a Bissell could outperform a power nozzle on a stick... I mean an Oreck.  So could a broom and dustpan. 

Give me a Hoover Concept (power drive) any day!