Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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Hi Dusty and Motorhead,

Thanks for the support.  Like I proved Carmine wrong when he was maligning Mr. Dyson and claiming he stole and/or strong armed a small time inventor when this inventor posted here that he was infringed on over the DC15.  I do not remember seeing Carmine reverse his stance or signal any sort of regret of this false stance and malign (he brought zero proof, and only mud slinging).  Enough of Carmine, I have been watching the ASA for some time and their involvement in the Hoover U.S. v. Dyson counter suit.  I have on file a Bloomberg news report on this lawsuit and have been putting all the pieces and timeline together of how Hoover’s $627,600,000 claimed damages against James in a false advertising lawsuit.  Some here say Hoover was not hurt by James but Hoover believed it was.  The ASA had a huge role in ending Dyson’s “No Clogging” claim here and in the UK and maybe eleswhere too (at least for now) and bringing this lawsuit to a settlement.  It is big business and it’s ugly.  The ASA may or may not be able to tweak their adjudications much, but they can certainly delay the release of a ruling which can help Hoover U.S./UK and hurt Mr. Dyson big time.      DIB

 

P.S.  Carmine, there is no need to re-interpret my posts, my linked documents or news stories.  We are all grown ups here and need not have your personel translation, tweaks and spins on said docs, reports and posts.  Due your own homework, and quit sponging off of and spinning mine.

The current ASA ruling is clearly and cogently based on the facts and evidence presented in the case [read: the truth].  It is in no way, shape, or form anti-dyson, as claimed, IMHO.  I've stated my reasons above. 

Furthermore, as I said, if the ASA is anti-anything, as is claimed, it is anti-false and misleading advertising claims by product makers.  This is it's stated and approved authority and mission.  All the aggrieved parties whether complaintants and/or defendants, agree in advance to accept the ASA decisions as the final rule making authority.  They do so knowing that there is no further recourse for appeal after the ASA.   This presupposes that all the parties have the maturity, wisdom, and wherewithal to accept and comply with the ASA rulings [without resorting to name calling before/after]. 

Carmine D's Law:  Where one stands, oftentimes depends on where he/she sits.  The proof is self-evident.

Carmine D.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/money/2008/08/24/sv_jamesdyson.xml

Good article in this newspaper today, on James Dyson.

By the way, in the TV news pictures, at the top of this thread - notice that you can see one of his son's 'MotorLights' in the background?

Jake Dyson looks to be positioning himself as heir to his father’s legacy. He’s added a wall-mounted Motorlight to compliment the free-standing version and is busy working on a third version.

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=453&storycode=3123560&c=2

http://www.jakedyson.com/

Will Dyson (Senior) one day launch a coffee machine? Interesting patent filing here, which describes a method to simplify the internal working of such a machine, so that two ingredient hoppers can be operated by a single motor :-

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB2447678&F=0

in turn, would there be any value in having coffee beans grounded by a Dyson Digital Motor at 100,000 rpm? Maybe!
There's no obvious reference to floor / laundry care in the description, but perhaps it could be applied.

The Dyson AirBlade web site has had a recent overhaul including a great video with John Churchill, who is credited with having the initial idea for the product.

http://www.dysonairblade.co.uk/

Interview with James Dyson, insights to the latest version of the dyson digital motor and it's potential.

Sir James Dyson the inventor keeps on motoring
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/3135921/Sir-James-Dyson-the-inventor-keeps-on-motoring.html

Thanks M00seUK for posting that link on Dyson.  I wonder if this new even smaller faster Dyson Digital Motor will make a mass launch into Dyson Vacuums going forward.  The artical hints on that don't you think!

DC18

Out of sheer curiousity, does anyone have any sales/performance data to post/report on the dyson DM cann in Japan?  The dyson DM cann has been exclusively in that market now for over a year.  That's enough time for a dyson newsy to post/report about the success of its latest vacuum technology. 

Carmine D.

Moose,

I must thank you for digging into the patent office.  The uplight is more art than having mass appeal.  And a limited run is part of selling this light.  This fellow has a ceiling fan patent too, you probably have seen it.

This new Airblade website should of been in place on day 1 of the Airblades launch.  IMO, this is better than the Oreck site I recently praised and its uses of video makes it the best of all Dyson’s sites thus far (IMO).

Thanks for the article too.        DIB

Dyson Digital Motors in future vacuums...

I believe getting the Dyson vacuum/s into the top 1, 2, or 3 rankings at Consumer Reports is much more important than bringing even more expensive Dyson Digital Motored vacuum/s to America.  Like it or not CR has millions of folks who trust it and huge national television shows (with millions of viewers) also interview CR on vacuum cleaners, Dyson is often mentioned as not getting top or near top rankings.  NOT GOOD!        DIB

Hi DIB,

A good vacuum cleaner is a good vacuum cleaner thus a vacuum not rated as number one by CR does not rule out its being a viable choice for purchase.  Even better, what CR has begun to do is let in fresh air by allowing the input of readers whether their yea or nay proves agrees with a CR rating or not. 

I checked CR's reader reviews re the DC21 and with a vote window of one to five stars, ten owners of this Dyson canister appeared pleased.  Out of up to five stars, users ratings averaged to an overall score of four.  Even though some deemed its power cord too short, thought it a tad noisy and a little heavier than they'd like they still like the cleaner a great deal.  Those issues raised by actual owners makes it understandable the Dyson did not get higher marks.

Dyson uprights, got points off for noise and cetain models that did not have a manual pile height adjustment also ranked as at least "good."

Though I can't understand why a vacuum manufactured by an "icon," and that costs $500, has a short power cord  and needs to be quieter, I give way as they are selling. But I understand that.  No vacuum satisfies everyone or anyone down to the nth degree but if you like you like it.  I have not bought a Dyson -- and won't be buying one -- but I have in past bought vacuums that did not get CRs highest scores and felt pleased with the purchase nonetheless. 

Scoring "good" is often good enough. for people who don't don't necessarily worry over how a vacuum works as long as it does the work they bought it for.

Best,

Venson