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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #8 Jul 21, 2008 8:12 pm |
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The hype I was referring to is that the Dyson is supposed to be a more superior vacuum than other machines as reported by glowing reviews. I excpected bin after bin of dirt to come up in each home I tried it in and it didn't happen. I do like the machine, but Dyson as a company seems to enjoy lying to consumers. Rexiar preceeded Dyson by decades as the first vacuum that doesn't lose suction and calling non-existent height adjustment automatic is also misleading. Lots of consumers also complain about lack of a headlight, but I don't really care about that. DIB, that was in interesting story. Is Jame's relationship with Iona in his autobiography?
If a home has been vacumed thoroughly on a frequent basis I would not expect to fill a Dyson on a single use. I have owned both DC07 and DC14. Never had your bad experiences. I did prefer the 07. I bought the XL21, Kenmore, Panasonic, Bissell HH and others. The DC07 out performed them all.
Remember you bought a used ( more like an abused ) vacuum. I believe most dealers will tell you that most used vacuums have been abused. Do you really think that they just put them out for sale without inspection and repairs? Dyson does not advertise to be indestructible. None are. I have found many more negative reports on Hoover WT's that were purchased new and self destructed in a few months.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #13 Jul 22, 2008 7:03 am |
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If a home has been vacumed thoroughly on a frequent basis I would not expect to fill a Dyson on a single use. I have owned both DC07 and DC14. Never had your bad experiences. I did prefer the 07. I bought the XL21, Kenmore, Panasonic, Bissell HH and others. The DC07 out performed them all. HS:
You said you owned the EUREKA Boss Smart Vacuum too. Which claims it outcleans a DC07 by 60 percent. What do you think? Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #14 Jul 22, 2008 7:45 am |
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The 14 must be the worst Dyson ever made...
Hey VF:
That dubious distinction goes to the DC 11 canister for $499 which lasted 5 months in the USA: From April 2004 to September 2004. The official dyson death notice is Feb 2005, making it a 9 month run. Shortest product run in US vacuum history. But by Feb 2005, most retailers culled them from their shelves and collectors were scarfing up for $50-$100 as repacks and refurbs. Many DC11-s were returned within the first week of purchase. It's biggest problem, not counting the weight and bulk, was a poorly designed and functioning power head. Not made for USA rugs. Brush bar typically stopped, hiccuped, and stalled going over low pile carpets if the users applied the slightest pressure. Persons could easily stop the brush bar using the fingers/palm of their hand [as MOLE mentioned to you] and keep it stopped. Not good for deep down rug cleaning. Just straight suction surface dirt cleaner. Carmine D.
This message was modified Jul 22, 2008 by CarmineD
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #15 Jul 22, 2008 7:56 am |
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HS: You said you owned the EUREKA Boss Smart Vacuum too. Which claims it outcleans a DC07 by 60 percent. What do you think? Carmine D.
If I thought it outcleaned the DC07 I would have kept it. The Boss does a very job of cleaning carpet. I fails miserably on hard floor surfaces. The exhaust blows more dirt / dust than it vacuums on these surfaces.
I have medium pile with extra thick padding and the DC07 never stalled or ratcheded on it. Remember the Boss claim is only on thicker carpet. I did use the DC07 on some very plush wool carpet in a home that I inherited and did not have any problems. The carpet was probably 30 plus years old.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #16 Jul 22, 2008 8:06 am |
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"Plush" is the word EUREKA uses for the claim comparing the $150 Boss Smart Vacuum to the $400 DC07. BTW, in every Consumer Reports that rates vacuums and includes the EUREKA BOSS Smart Vacuum, the BOSS rates an "Excellent" for performance on Bare floors. You claim it failed miserably. Interesting? Did you set the BOSS to the bare floor adjustment? Interesting too, based on your lone perspective, that dyson never ever contests the EUREKA claim and/or offers its own test findings to contradict EUREKA's claim. Why? HAs to have a reason[s]. Wouldn't you think? Dyson shows it is not shy about officially filing to dispute claims by other makers which put dyson in a poor [read humiliating] light. Of course, now the ASA ruling eliminates any doubt that the Electrolux Intensity [MSRP in the US is $299] has 50 percent more suction at the brush roll [with a full paper bag that needs changing] than a DC14. BTW, the recent ASA ruling certainly gives alot of credence [read truth] to VF's findings and conclusions about a DC14 vice a bagless BISSELL Cleanview. The $60 BISSELL Cleanview outcleans the more expensive dyson [after VF's assurance and actions that his DC14 is running properly]. Why? BISSELL has a better brush roll? A rug height adjustment? Both? Perhaps a BISSELL has more suction [at the brush roll] than a DC14? Like the Intensity? Surely it can't be the BISSELL headlight! Carmine D.
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mole
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Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #17 Jul 22, 2008 8:44 pm |
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"Plush" is the word EUREKA uses for the claim comparing the $150 Boss Smart Vacuum to the $400 DC07. BTW, in every Consumer Reports that rates vacuums and includes the EUREKA BOSS Smart Vacuum, the BOSS rates an "Excellent" for performance on Bare floors. You claim it failed miserably. Interesting? Did you set the BOSS to the bare floor adjustment? Interesting too, based on your lone perspective, that dyson never ever contests the EUREKA claim and/or offers its own test findings to contradict EUREKA's claim. Why? HAs to have a reason[s]. Wouldn't you think? Dyson shows it is not shy about officially filing to dispute claims by other makers which put dyson in a poor [read humiliating] light. Of course, now the ASA ruling eliminates any doubt that the Electrolux Intensity [MSRP in the US is $299] has 50 percent more suction at the brush roll [with a full paper bag that needs changing] than a DC14. BTW, the recent ASA ruling certainly gives alot of credence [read truth] to VF's findings and conclusions about a DC14 vice a bagless BISSELL Cleanview. The $60 BISSELL Cleanview outcleans the more expensive dyson [after VF's assurance and actions that his DC14 is running properly]. Why? BISSELL has a better brush roll? A rug height adjustment? Both? Perhaps a BISSELL has more suction [at the brush roll] than a DC14? Like the Intensity? Surely it can't be the BISSELL headlight! Carmine D. The BISSELL,bagged or bagless clear view or cleanview,whatever your choice, have the same brushrollor and belt set up as a hoover tempo,[the bearing caps on the bissell are different] For a big box $ 69.95er, this machine cleans and grooms the rug as good as any vacuum out there at any price,if the machine is maintained right,new belt every 6 months,filter washed or changed per manufactures specs,this a great bang for the buck vacuum, it's about the only good thing that bissell makes............... MOLE
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