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Vacuumfreeeke


Joined: May 9, 2008
Points: 105

comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Original Message   Jul 21, 2008 11:24 am
I was just watching my Fantom Fury video (have the video, not the machine though I was obsessed with them as a teenager) and it said that if the dirt in the chamber ever stopped spinning, the user should check the machine for a clog. 

My Dyson DC14 actually has baffles in the dirt chamber that inhibit spinning of the dirt.  When I vacuum with it, the dirt just kind of lays in the chamber without moving.  The cat hair usually gets stuck on the baffles, and the heavier sand falls to the back of the chamber as the reclined position of the handle would dictate. 
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #21   Jul 23, 2008 9:00 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

You can always remove the dirty filter and toss it.  Use the vacuum w/o it.  Then, when the vacuum quits running, buy a new one for $60 [that's the cost of the pre and post motor filters for your fave brand].  And the BISSELL does a better cleaning job on rugs, since it uses a HOOVER brush roll. 

At that rate you can buy 6 new BISSELL Cleanviews over the course of 6 plus years for $360 and have enough money left over for a some lattes at STARBUCKS and some big Macs at McDonalds.  No bags, no filters, no belts.  No maintenance save dirt bin dumping.  No extra costs after purchase. 

As my Jewish Aunt use to say:  Such a deal!

Carmine D.



You didn't know what brush roll it had before mole told you.  Now in your lone opinion it out performs everything.  The amusing thing is that it is better than an $800 Oreck.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #22   Jul 24, 2008 7:03 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Now in your lone opinion it [BISELL] out performs everything.  The amusing thing is that it is better than an $800 Oreck.

HS:

Not true, on both accounts.  I'm accepting the experiences related by VF and his friend along with the recent ASA ruling upholding the Electrolux Intensity [MSRP $299] claim that it has 50 percent more suction at the brush roll [with a full bag] than a dyson DC14 [MSRP $439]. 

First, VF said his friend's $60 bagless BISSELL Cleanview outperformed a DC14 dyson for rug cleaning.  MOLE added it is likely the brush roll that beats a dyson DC14 in a match off for rug cleaning.  Opining that the BISSELL brush roll is an exact copy of the HOOVER TEMPO [MSRP $60 typically a Consumer Reports BEST BUY and top 10 rated upright].  CR recommended the HOOVER TEMPO lightweight over the DC18 Slim [MSRP $469] in a match off.  While I don't have any personal experience with a BISSELL Cleanview bagless, I do with the bagged HOOVER TEMPO.  It's a steal for $60 and will match up worthily in performance with any of today's brands costing 8-10 times more.  I agree with MOLE and understand his reasons for complimenting the BISSELL.  It's the brush roll! [no mention of stupid]. 

Second, the $740 ORECK [with a 21 year warranty] is typically rated around 10-12  in the field of Consumer Reports tested uprights.  This is is much better than all the BISSELL-s, save the HEALTHY HOME [$250], which makes the top 10.  Tho, the BISSELL bagless models [MSRP $60-$90] have been rated a CR BEST BUY. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 24, 2008 by CarmineD
Vacuumfreeeke


Joined: May 9, 2008
Points: 105

Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #23   Jul 24, 2008 11:17 am
The funny thing is that I actually wanted my Dyson to outperform any other cleaner I tried it against... I like it.  I'm not anti-Dyson.  It wouldn't surprise me if a Bissell could outperform a power nozzle on a stick... I mean an Oreck.  So could a broom and dustpan. 

Give me a Hoover Concept (power drive) any day!
mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #24   Aug 10, 2008 2:50 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
The funny thing is that I actually wanted my Dyson to outperform any other cleaner I tried it against... I like it.  I'm not anti-Dyson.[well almost]....

Give me a Hoover Concept (power drive) any day!



Now your getting a little piece of brain.....

MOLE

Vacuumfreeeke


Joined: May 9, 2008
Points: 105

Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #25   Aug 10, 2008 7:46 pm
Why I'm not quite sure how to take that, sir.  Never heard that expression before!
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: comparing the dyson with the 90's fantoms
Reply #26   Aug 12, 2008 4:05 pm

VacuumFreake,

Take it as a put down.  Mole goes after Dyson the man, his products and most all James Dyson does and says, as well as those who use Dyson products or support Dyson the corp/the man.

 

Are you still interested in the Dyson-Fantom/Iona connection?...  Here's James Dyson’s pre-Iona dual cyclone U.S. patent - filed in 1984.  Here is a Fantom Capture dual cyclonic upright/dry shampooer that James’ 1st licensed to Iona and distributed in Canada/mostly America and U.S. patent - filed in 1988.         DIB

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