Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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DC18 wrote:
My Grandad was so outraged at the relative high cost for replacement vac bags, that he used to 'empty' them through the inlet hole (or whatever you'd call it). It was a tedious job and of course, it would have had little benefit becuase the pores would still be clogged on reuse. In later years, he had a DC04 :-)

M00seUK wrote:
I know people that empty their bagged vacuum bags through the inlet hole as to re-use the bag again!

I know of customers that threw out their dyson filters trying to make it work better.

Guess what it worked....................


MOLE

mole wrote:
Generally speaking, you can run a Dyson without a filter and it will be fine, as long as you're careful to not overfill the clear bin or suck up too much fine dust in one go. Of course people do this and run them without filters also.. which is why the latest models have a catch which prevents you doing this.

mole wrote:
In fact the first Dyson was not designed to have much in the way of after filters, it was only on later models that this was incorporated.  Moose hit the nail right on the head about running Dysons without filters.  It is true about the cyclones being able to filter out most of the particles.  Definitely not as bad as some clean-air paper bag designs that end up leaking dust through the motor. 

Can't do that with a bagged machine of course.  We all know what happens when a clean-air vacuum is run without a bag.  Either massive amounts of dirt through the motor (causing off-balance fans or worse) or the bag compartment filter literally packed with dirt.  Spewing dust each time.  Much like what happens when you try to run a bin filter bagless without *that* filter...

-MH

dusty wrote:

Hey Dust Man:

Creative bookkeeping for the refurbs to be exact!  Double counted as new sales without the corresponding increase in cost of goods sold to manufacture.  Double the profit from sales with half the expenses to produce, market and sell. 

As a result the US federal government passed a law that all refurbed vacuums have to clearly advertise on the carton that they are refurbs/remanufactured and/or similar language.  

Carmine D.

Hey guys:

HOOVER used a reusable bag with a bag clamp in the 50's on several uprights: Models 60, 61 and 62.  Not HOOVER's finest hour.  Customers didn't like them because they were very expensive.  Messy too.  HOOVER converted back to the throwaway bag with the 63, 64, 65 and on. 

Customers frequently asked me to convert the reusable bag to the throw away bag. 

If you are picking up alot of fuzz and nap from a new carpet, reusing the paper bag once is not a problem.  And not messy.  If you are picking up the everyday household grit and dirt, reusing a throwaway paper is messy and harmful to the motor.  Not allowing enough air to filter out to keep the motor cool.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE Man:

Beats the workaround for the users to wear wax ear plugs!

Carmine D.

M00seUK wrote:

M00seUK Man:

God bless him. 

The technical industry term is "bag opening."  Vacuum pros are sticklers for vacuum terms. 

Carmine D.

It seems the UK’s ASA is more and more anti-Dyson.  The ASA ; is it now run by bias men, good men, genius’s or drunks?  You decide…

        DIB

        DIB

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ASA said...
The ASA took expert advice. The expert said the independent test data supplied by Electrolux was reliable and of good quality.

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The expert believed the suction power test data submitted by Electrolux was not sufficient to support the claim that the Intensity gave an "intense deep clean", because it did not include test data relating to cleaning performance.
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ASA said...

The expert pointed out…  …a reduction in cleaning performance did not necessarily result from a reduction in suction power due to bag 'clogging'

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http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_44647.htm

ASA ruled in 2003 on bag clogging -  http://archive.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/2003/1/17/166948.html