Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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Hello Dusty:

I mentioned before but don't mind again.  Not new ORECK-s.  Tho, I met Dave and had the opportunity if I wanted.  Prince of a man.

Sold ORECK-s used, repaired, and sold parts.  Not a real demand for new ORECK-s at the time.  (1949-1992).  Like now, ORECK is a niche market.   I was authorized as a dealer for sales and service for HOOVER, EUREKA, WESTINGHOUSE and Panasonic.  Space was a premium for me.  I didn't have the room.

If and when a generic lightweight was wanted/needed, one of these above makes/models fit the bill nicely.  If they asked specifically for a new ORECK upright, then I referred them to dealer who was a friend.  I wanted and got nothing for the referrals.  Did the same for new GE's, Kirby-s, Luxes, and Rainbows.  Didn't carry but referred to business friends who did.

Carmine D.

I've never had any issues with my DC07 with the head sinking into long thick carpet pile nor when I used to use a DC03 (first Dyson to have the brush control switch setup!) and DC04!  I in fact I found it easier to push on long thick pile carpet!

DC18

Well Mole believe it I did say that.  Thats up to you if you choose to believe different.  No, all my Dysons have fully working brush bars, with fully working belts.  No the only time the brush bar goes off is on hard floors!  Brush bar is always ON on carpets.  I know a vast amount of people with Dysons that use them on different flooring and different thickness of carpets with no issue at all.

Like HARDSELL says it's just the odd person that seems to have an issue!  Some people do and some don't have any issues!   Thats like that with most products!

DC18

Mole,

It is plausible DC18's carpet fibers are spread enough apart and/or criss cross each other allowing for additional airflow to enter the vacuums mouth, making it grip less and pull into on the carpet less.        DIB

Vacuumfreake, a self-admitted dyson junkie, says the set up in the DC14 is ridiculous.  Can't understand dyson's thinking on it.  Is he the odd user?  If so, why didn't any one call him that when he posted this several weeks back.

Vacuumfreeeke wrote:

The dyson clutch brush bar shut off design, form and function is most worthy of an award for the worse ever set up utilized on an upright vacuum in over 100 years in the USA.  If any other manufacturer did it, it would be the scourge of all posts here.  Just as VF called it.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

If the clutch shut-off and brush bar is not a problem why did dyson eliminate the feature on all models after and for the last 5 years and still? 

I do not have enough knowledge of this vacuum’s history and will not comment.

Ball feature came back!  Surely, if its sooo good then it has to be a worth while feature to employ.  A good thing.

The lighter weight Ball line is genius.  Opinions matter nil, number of sales and/or profits and satisfied users do matter much, we’ll have to wait and see.  The state of our economy will have a great influence on folks buying $400 plus Dyson’s like they did freely in our past/better economy.  Certainly like always the Dyson and only Dyson will be the most desired and talked of vacuum/s in a normally innovatively dull industry.

Dyson should have kept it.   Especially since no other vacuum on the market uses this clutch/brush bar feature.  Is this too like the dyson pre-motor filter that is sooo good it never clogs and needs cleaning [but once a year] and now needs it every month?

My suggestion…  if filter cleaning every 1, 3 or 6 months is going to send you over the edge, then don’t buy.

Vacuumfreake, a self-admitted dyson junkie, says the set up in the DC14 is ridiculous.  Can't understand dyson's thinking on it.  Is he an odd user?  

Is Vacuumfreake a Dyson junkie?  I did not get this impression.

Vacuumfreeeke wrote:

Well, I got my first Dyson and I'm not sure I made the right choice.  .......After cutting at least 2 pounds of hair and white stuffing off the brushroll............. there was dog hair caked all over the vacuum in the brushroll housing.  I cleaned it as well as I could... which isn't easy because of the fact that Dyson makes the vacuum so users can't remove their own belt/brushroll (very stupid if you ask me, but I'm sure they get a lot more money for service). 

Carmine, you suck the fun out of our debates. - Taking his post out of context and asking us to reply is exhausting.  Did this vacuum get white stuffing, his family’s hair and his pets hair wrapped around the brushroll by simply cleaning once around his home?  How did all this stuffing and hair get there? – Please explain.        DIB

Carmine D.

Hey DIB Man:

VF's post is not out of context here.  It is the crux of the weakness of this dyson feature on DC07/14.  Having a yellow English lab, who sheds year around, in concert with brand new wool loop rugs, the dyson DC07 struck out big time in my home.  Why? Read on, please.

The puny dyson brush bar got dog hair and new rug wrap stuck around it after a few passes while the brush bar ratcheting noise would go on and off constantly.  [I sent pics of my dyson brush bar to Acerone back in September 2006.  As an illustration that the brush bar is flawed for USA household use].  Didn't happen with the HOOVER WT and doesn't with the ORECK.  NEVER!

How many pets are in USA households?  70 million according to the US Humane Society.  How many have the problem?   

As part of my conversations with the dyson HELPLINE over several days and weeks, it told me to use the dyson suction hose to remove the rug and hair wrap.  It said it was causing the ratcheting noise problems.  Really?  Problem is, it took me 20 minutes to cut it off, before I could vacuum it up.  Then after a few more passes, same thing all over again with the gawdawful ratcheting noise.  Ops there goes another dyson refurb.

Carmine D.

Well HS Man:

Why does dyson devote two pages with instructions and illustrations in it's User's Guide about cutting off the pet/human hair and rug wrap?  Why did the dyson HELPLINE say this was causing the ratcheting noise?  No. I'm not the only user with the problem.   Neither is the former owner of VF's dyson.  Ops there goes another dyson refurb!

Cut your losses on this HS man.  You lost the battle.  Dyson conceded defeat.  Scrubbed the clutch/puny brush bar shut off feature.  You dyson devotees have a war ahead to fight.  What do you tell dyson buyers, especially previous owners, or self-avowed dyson junkies like VF, why they should pay $500 plus for a new dyson and have to perform monthly filter maintenance?  Ball technology?  Good for a laugh, but makes for a HARDSELL!

Carmine D.