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DysonInventsBig
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Original Message Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am |
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Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread. . 
 
 
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dusty
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Reply #147 Jul 5, 2008 9:42 pm |
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BTW, the RICCAR Brilliance and Radiance, its top of the line uprights, have manual rug height adjustments. As well as the 1800 RICCAR Premium canister and the 1700 RICCAR Simplicity canister. Both top of the line full size canister vacuums. 6 position if I recall correctly. Also the RICCAR 1500 Series canisters [mid size] have 6 position height adjustments. If I recall. None of the dysons do. NONE.
EUREKA and Kenmore have models with manual rug height adjustments. The Kenmore Progressive models, both in the upright and canisters. Also top of the line models. The EUREKA upright Boss Smart vacuum [$150] and Optima [$60] have rug height adjustments. No dysons have rug height adjustments. NONE. The Electrolux Oxygen canister [owned, operated, and made by EUREKA] has a manual rug height adjustment. As does the Twin Clean bagless canister [also owned, operated and made by EUREKA]. Also both are top of the line canisters. No dysons have rug height adjustments. NONE. It is self-evident that in the USA rug height adjustments on vacuums are the norm, the standard, the expectation. Even if dyson doesn't have them on any of its models. NONE. Carmine D. Gee, thanks for all the information. I am well aware that all these vacuums have height adjustments, that was never the issue at hand. You said height adjusts were standard on ALL full size US uprights, I gave you a few where that wasn't the case, you said that my list didn't count because they were sold by indys and asked for box store vacs...I gave those to you too. For my trouble I get a lesson in all the vacs with height adjusts. Well, I'm game...here's a list for you. The Eureka sweep @ groom powerhead has never had a height adjust but is probably the most commonly sold powerhead in North America Electrolux, from the 60's to today (not the Eureka version) has never had a height adjust yet many consider the brand to be an American institution. Tristar. Sure lots of folks thought that air valve on the front was a height adjust but it just wasn't so. No height adjust. Never. Panasonic uprights...never had a height adjust. Eureka Maxima, no height adjust. Oreck XL21 comes in at 11 pounds (according to Consumer Reports). Does this count as a full size vac yet? It should for $700. It's heavier than many Eureka and Hoover product. No height adjust but probably needs one as it rates only "good" in CR for carpet cleaning. Riccar Vibrance line of uprights. No height adjust....never....ever. Eureka Air Extreme...no height adjustment Riccar SL4. Only 9 pounds but rates excellent for carpet cleaning in CR. Gotta include this one...no height adjust. Last but not least.... All hoover quadraflex and windtunnel powerheads. No height adjust. Ever. Dusty
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DysonInventsBig
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Reply #151 Jul 6, 2008 12:55 am |
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Taken from HSN's web site... Today's Price: $379.95 HSN Price: $429.95 | You Save: $50.00 FREE Shipping & Handling Item: 345-186
Dyson DC07 Upright Cyclonic Vacuum Cleaner Includes: (The extras are highlighted in orange)
- Crevice tool
- Stair tool (floor tool)
- Brush tool
- Soft brush tool
- Hard floor tool
- Mini turbine head
- Quick Start guide
- Product manual
At final count, HSN sold 10,000 units today of the above DC07 bundle. It is probably the largest (units sold) 1 day sale of Dyson anything. . Carmine, according to you the WM crowd is not buying Dyson's, this HSN one day sale proves there's still a lot of life in the DC07 and there are plenty who do like and can afford them (at the right price). DIB
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Reply #152 Jul 6, 2008 6:31 am |
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Hi Vacuum people.
The on going debate about auto height adjustments VS manual carpet height adjusters,has pros and cons.
The people that argue against them have a legit reason,99% of the consumers dont know what adjustment to use on their carpet height.
The auto adjustment is o.k. FOR MOST CARPETING, For heavy pile carpets with a thick padding these machine shall i say in a nice way REALLY STRUGGLE.
There has to be a fine balance of the brushroll,belt and type of belt, and enough suction to pull dirt and dust into the bag or bin.[Not an overkill by suction or brush roll design],
Most companies are still finding it very difficult to find this balance,Better step up the R@D,very few vacuum companies have figured this out.
I will offer a hint for them,any machine that uses a flat type belt or V belt,or even the trick kevlar belt,and has no height adjustments will continue to be problematic on todays carpeting.
Remember that 95% of vacuum trade ins or returns are due to belt and brushroll problems..........................
MOLE Thanks. I read a Sebo patent that said it had a non-motorized auto height adjustment mechanisium. Sebo said one of the advantages to non-motorized was that motorized was problematic due to motor failure or alike. Have you or anyone ever seen a Sebo non-motorized height adjustment? DIB
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Reply #153 Jul 6, 2008 6:55 am |
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Hello DIB Thats alot of units sold on the DC07!! By the way my Sebo Felix has a non motorised height adjustment! DC18 |
CarmineD
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Reply #154 Jul 6, 2008 6:58 am |
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Carmine, according to you the WM crowd is not buying Dyson's, this HSN one day sale proves there's still a lot of life in the DC07 and there are plenty who do like and can afford them (at the right price). DIB
Hey DIB:
Where's the proof? HSN? Sorry. Takes more to convince me than HSN say so. It's hype and hawk. Makes for a good show. Get the TV crowd lathered up to peak their demand and buy before it sells out. Like old fashioned auctions. Carmine D.
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Reply #155 Jul 6, 2008 7:05 am |
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Hey Dusty: You forgot one. The halo, the most recent upright to launch in the USA. With the UV-C light for germ extermination. MSRP $499 but cheaper on store shelves now. Has a manual rug height adjustment. The standard, the norm, the expectation for all full size uprights in the USA industry. Not on any dysons. NONE. With regard to the ORECK upright, its well documented here by me in discussions with MOLE that even the most expensive ORECK upright won't work well on high pile shags. And ORECK store staff are specifically told to ask/nix the sale if customers have these carpets. Nothing new from you, my man. I said it first. The majority of new uprights made and sold in the USA every year have rug height adjustments. And headlights. Industry standards. Dyson doesn't. NONE. Carmine D. |
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Reply #156 Jul 6, 2008 7:07 am |
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I think he may have been a politician in his past life.  Dusty
I lived in a suburb of Wash DC for many years. What can I say? And worked in Wash DC for some years! Lobbyist for the vacuum industry? Who knows?
Carmine D.
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