Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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Can I just say Carmine D have you ever visited the UK?  People seem to think UK people just have very low short pile to medium pile carpet.  In the UK we have a mixture of flooring from tiled, woodern, laminate, to loop, short and medium pile carpet to very thick 'shag' pile carpet!  And many more types! On top of that we have rugs too all of verying piles heights.  Uk differs slighty to the rest of Europe in that we have a mixed of flooring in our homes.  Where as places like France, Spain, Italy you will mainly find hard flooring like tiles etc...

I've used my DC07 on a long pile carpet with no problem at all, groomed it very well!

DC18

Hello DC18

Yes, I have.  I travelled through all the countries of Europe.  And for a time, thought seriously of starting a vacuum business there.  Thank you for asking.

No where in Europe are rugs and carpets as prevalent as they are here in the USA.  The USA households, with wall-to-wall carpeting, have matting/padding [some very high] which adds more height and depth to the carpet height.  Do you have that in the UK?   

The DC07 and 14, with their heavy rug head nozzles and no manual rug height adjustments [standard for all full size USA uprights] are hard to push and pull on many US rugs [especially with matting/padding added].  In turn, causing the typical classic dyson ratcheting noise so familiar with these models.

The dyson clutch and brush bar shut off [btw, puny dyson brush not meeting US industry standards] is meant for obstructions [in the UK].  Not to be engaged frequently during normal rug cleaning use [as it does with US med to high pile with backing].  

The combination of the puny dyson brush bar, clutch shut off, and lack of manual rug height adjustments are all the reasons that these models are not suited for many USA carpets.   

Carmine D.

Which Royal?  All the Dirt Devils in the big box stores have rug adjustments.  And the all metal Royals in the indy-s have rug adjustments.  Amd have since their beginnings decades ago.

Carmine D.

HS:

That's the reason it's not sold in big box stores and indy's, save a few.  And not a good example to generalize about for the rest of the US industry.

Carmine D.

I was in the UK and Europe in the 70's, 80's and 90's.  Haven't made it back recently.  Hasn't changed that much.

Carmine D.

Carmine,

When you are caught misleading you start to twist.  It is difficult to follow what you are saying above.

You stated this as fact:

"and no manual rug height adjustments [standard for all full size USA uprights"

All full size USA uprights do not have manual height adjustments as you stated.  Is it not a good example because it proved that you do not know what you are talking about?

Headlights are standard for all full sized uprights too [and have been for years in the vacuum industry].  Dyson doesn't have one.  None.  Does that make dyson un-standard?  No, just means that dysons and the royal model you bought  do not meet the standards.  The norm for what is expecting.  Kind of like you! 

BTW, Consumer Reports is always critical of upright vacuums without manual rug height adjustments. 

Carmine D.

So you were wrong and now want to twist the subject to headlights. No Dyson is not un-standard although you implied that it was.  Since Oreck does not have a manual height adjuster it is not the norm of what is expected. In fact, I do not think it has a means of adjusting height.  CR should be very critical of the Oreck.  Of course like you they have double standards.

The Royal has a head light.  So it is just as standart as the Oreck.

I would add the ability to turn off the brush roll as a desired standard.  Your Oreck and most Hoovers lack this feature.