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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Original Message Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am |
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Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread. . 
 
 
This message was modified Aug 2, 2008 by DysonInventsBig
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Reply #116 Jul 4, 2008 9:16 am |
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HAPPY 4th of July. Today during the celebrations, food and fun, remember the men and women of our military services deployed throughout the world. The wounded, the deceased, their friends, family and loved ones. And our Nation, the victims of war, pray for peace in the world. Say a pray for a man in full that his soul rest in blessed repose. Private First Class Ross Andrew McGinnis, who would have turned 21 on June 14, Flag Day. He was awarded the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest award for courage in battle. On December 4, 2006, in the gunner's hatch of a Humvee driving through Bagdad, PFC McGinnis saw a granade fly through the hatch rolling to where it could have injured the four other soldiers inside. In an easy position to save himself, McGinnis instead jumped to cover the granade with his body to shield his comrades. The 4 men were saved. McGinnis joined the Army on his 17th birthday, the first day he was eligible to enlist. A native of Knox, Pennslyvania. He was 6 foot tall but those who knew him said he seemed alot taller. Like many men and women in uniform, he answered the call knowing he may put in harm's way. At the moment it mattered, Ross McGinnis honored America's finest traditions and our own better natures. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam. Carmine D. “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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Reply #117 Jul 4, 2008 6:18 pm |
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No doubt, DC18, for the UK. The DC07 was made especially for rugs and carpets in the UK/Europe. Low to mid pile. Not for rugs in the USA. Medium to high pile, loops and sculptured. DC07-14 have a puny brush bar and are outperformed by any/all the big box store brand uprights on rugs. [Which also come with manual rug height adjustments besting the dyson]. The reason in part the dyson brush bars were revamped to more USA industry standard brush rolls on subsequent models. To make them compete better for rug cleaning with the competition in the markets where dyson exports. Carmine D.
Can I just say Carmine D have you ever visited the UK? People seem to think UK people just have very low short pile to medium pile carpet. In the UK we have a mixture of flooring from tiled, woodern, laminate, to loop, short and medium pile carpet to very thick 'shag' pile carpet! And many more types! On top of that we have rugs too all of verying piles heights. Uk differs slighty to the rest of Europe in that we have a mixed of flooring in our homes. Where as places like France, Spain, Italy you will mainly find hard flooring like tiles etc...
I've used my DC07 on a long pile carpet with no problem at all, groomed it very well! DC18
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #118 Jul 5, 2008 6:03 am |
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Can I just say Carmine D have you ever visited the UK? People seem to think UK people just have very low short pile to medium pile carpet. Hello DC18
Yes, I have. I travelled through all the countries of Europe. And for a time, thought seriously of starting a vacuum business there. Thank you for asking. No where in Europe are rugs and carpets as prevalent as they are here in the USA. The USA households, with wall-to-wall carpeting, have matting/padding [some very high] which adds more height and depth to the carpet height. Do you have that in the UK? The DC07 and 14, with their heavy rug head nozzles and no manual rug height adjustments [standard for all full size USA uprights] are hard to push and pull on many US rugs [especially with matting/padding added]. In turn, causing the typical classic dyson ratcheting noise so familiar with these models. The dyson clutch and brush bar shut off [btw, puny dyson brush not meeting US industry standards] is meant for obstructions [in the UK]. Not to be engaged frequently during normal rug cleaning use [as it does with US med to high pile with backing]. The combination of the puny dyson brush bar, clutch shut off, and lack of manual rug height adjustments are all the reasons that these models are not suited for many USA carpets. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #119 Jul 5, 2008 6:31 am |
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DC18 Yes, I have. Life long friends born and raised there. Since you asked, travelled all of Europe. My Wife and her family are German. Things have changed since the 1940's. No where are rugs and carpets as prevalent as they are here in the USA. The USA households with wall-to-wall carpeting have matting/padding [some very high] which adds more height and depth to the size. Do you have that in the UK? Anywhere in Europe? Most are low to medium pile. The DC07 and 14 with heavy rug head nozzles, and no manual rug height adjustments [standard for all full size USA uprights] are hard to push and pull on many US rugs [especially with matting/padding added]. In turn, causing the typical dyson ratcheting noise so familiar with these models. NOT TRUE The Royal is not manually adjustable. The dyson clutch and brush bar shut off [btw, puny dyson brush not meeting US industry standards] is meant for obstructions [in the UK]. Not to be engaged frequently during normal rug cleaning use [as it does with US med to high pile with backing]. Most are low to medium pile. High pile is the exception. The combination of the puny dyson brush bar, clutch shut off, and lack of manual rug height adjustments are all the reasons that is it common knowledge these models are not suited for many USA carpets. And most vacuums are not meant for hard floor surfaces which are very common in the USA. They blow more dirt and dust away than they collect from these surfaces. DC07 is the exception. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Reply #120 Jul 5, 2008 6:48 am |
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HS: Which Royal? All the Dirt Devils in the big box stores have rug adjustments. And the all metal Royals in the indy-s have rug adjustments. Amd have since their beginnings decades ago. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Reply #121 Jul 5, 2008 6:51 am |
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HS: Which Royal? All the Dirt Devils in the big box stores have rug adjustments. And the all metal Royals in the indy-s have rug adjustments. Amd have since their beginnings decades ago. Carmine D. You said all. My Eminance does not have manual height adjustment.
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CarmineD
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Reply #122 Jul 5, 2008 6:53 am |
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You said all. My Eminance does not have manual height adjustment.
HS:
That's the reason it's not sold in big box stores and indy's, save a few. And not a good example to generalize about for the rest of the US industry. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Reply #124 Jul 5, 2008 7:22 am |
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HS: That's the reason it's not sold in big box stores and indy's, save a few. And not a good example to generalize about for the rest of the US industry. Carmine D. Carmine,
When you are caught misleading you start to twist. It is difficult to follow what you are saying above. You stated this as fact: "and no manual rug height adjustments [standard for all full size USA uprights" All full size USA uprights do not have manual height adjustments as you stated. Is it not a good example because it proved that you do not know what you are talking about?
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #125 Jul 5, 2008 7:31 am |
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HS: Headlights are standard for all full sized uprights too [and have been for years in the vacuum industry]. Dyson doesn't have one. None. Does that make dyson un-standard? No, just means that dysons and the royal model you bought  do not meet the standards. The norm for what is expecting. Kind of like you! BTW, Consumer Reports is always critical of upright vacuums without manual rug height adjustments. Carmine D.
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