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DysonInventsBig
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Original Message Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am |
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Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread. . 
 
 
This message was modified Aug 2, 2008 by DysonInventsBig
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HARDSELL
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Reply #108 Jul 3, 2008 6:38 pm |
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Hey MOLE: Yes, all the talk about dyson MAP enforcement and price supports. Supposedly to assist the indy-s against big box stores' price competition. And the dealer only dysons. Sure! More like retailers' exclusives. Remember it all very well. Heard it enough from all the dysoners. The dyson crowd has short memories and forsight. Now they won't admit they were all wrong. And we were right. How soon they forget! Ask the question: What is the signature dyson? You can't get 3 dysoners to agree. Ask which is the greater dyson? And they are befuddled? Hasn't come yet. Each new one is supposed to be the greater. Only each new dyson is the lesser: Less air watts, less dirt bin capacity. More user maintenance! Greater price! Carmine D.
Remember when you said that each new Hoover was greater than the previous and I disagreed. I was the one who was right. Each was lesser. You said Dyson was gone and I disagreed. I was right.
The DC07 is the best DYSON (in my opinion).
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #109 Jul 3, 2008 6:41 pm |
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Remember when you said that each new Hoover was greater than the previous and I disagreed. I was the one who was right. Each was lesser. You said Dyson was gone and I disagreed. I was right. The DC07 is the best DYSON (in my opinion).
Right HS:
That's the reason you sold your DC07 after 3 years and bought a DC14 and returned it for a credit! And now use a Royal bagged for $299 and Kirby bagged Sentria. Makes perfect sense. Non-sense. Carmine D.
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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Reply #110 Jul 3, 2008 6:59 pm |
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Remember when you said that each new Hoover was greater than the previous and I disagreed. I was the one who was right. Each was lesser. You said Dyson was gone and I disagreed. I was right. The DC07 is the best DYSON (in my opinion).
I agree with you there HARDSELL the DC07 is one of the best Dyson's and the most powerful to date...in the UK anyway!
DC18
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CarmineD
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Reply #111 Jul 3, 2008 7:14 pm |
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I agree with you there HARDSELL the DC07 is one of the best Dyson's and the most powerful to date...in the UK anyway! DC18
No doubt, DC18, for the UK. The DC07 was made especially for rugs and carpets in the UK/Europe. Low to mid pile. Not for rugs in the USA. Medium to high pile, loops and sculptured. DC07-14 have a puny brush bar and are outperformed by any/all the big box store brand uprights on rugs. [Which also come with manual rug height adjustments besting the dyson]. The reason in part the dyson brush bars were revamped to more USA industry standard brush rolls on subsequent models. To make them compete better for rug cleaning with the competition in the markets where dyson exports.
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Reply #112 Jul 3, 2008 7:39 pm |
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Kind of like a filter that doesn't clog...until it clogs. I get your thinking now. I wonder if NAD would agree with you.
Dusty
Well Dusty, NAD certainly didn't agree with dyson on the claim that its filters didn't clog.
Long before NAD disagreed, MOLE and I did too, here. All filters clog and we said so, even dyson. And when they do, suction decreases. More so than the fall off in suction when bags clog. Why? Filters have a smaller surface area than paper bags. Clog quicker. Takes less dirt to clog up a filter than a paper bag. And the consequences for permanent damage of a clogged filter to a vacuum motor trump a clogged bag easily [which requires removal and replacement of the dyson motor]. Didn't take me 450 engineers and 5127 prototypes to reach that conclusion. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #113 Jul 3, 2008 9:22 pm |
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Well Dusty, NAD certainly didn't agree with dyson on the claim that its filters didn't clog. Long before NAD disagreed, MOLE and I did too, here. All filters clog and we said so, even dyson. And when they do, suction decreases. More so than the fall off in suction when bags clog. Why? Filters have a smaller surface area than paper bags. Clog quicker. Takes less dirt to clog up a filter than a paper bag. And the consequences for permanent damage of a clogged filter to a vacuum motor trump a clogged bag easily [which requires removal and replacement of the dyson motor]. Didn't take me 450 engineers and 5127 prototypes to reach that conclusion. Carmine D. You and mole told us nothing that we do not know. Any filter that does not clog should not be there in the first place.
The DC0 filter does not clog as quickly as a bag. I only washed mine annually. Try using a bag more than a few times before suction drops.
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dusty
Joined: Feb 8, 2008
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Reply #114 Jul 3, 2008 11:11 pm |
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All filters clog and we said so, even dyson. And when they do, suction decreases. More so than the fall off in suction when bags clog. Why? Filters have a smaller surface area than paper bags. Clog quicker. Takes less dirt to clog up a filter than a paper bag. And the consequences for permanent damage of a clogged filter to a vacuum motor trump a clogged bag easily [which requires removal and replacement of the dyson motor]. Didn't take me 450 engineers and 5127 prototypes to reach that conclusion. Carmine D. Any bagged vacuum will have more dust clogging it in 5 minutes than a Dyson would get on it's filter in a month of use. You are right that clogged filters burn out motors...we see a steady stream of Kenmore / Panasonic canisters in with clogged filters because the seal on the bags is so ineffective and sure enough...toasted motors. Dusty
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CarmineD
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Reply #115 Jul 4, 2008 7:25 am |
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HAPPY 4th of July. Today during the celebrations, food and fun, remember the men and women of our military services deployed throughout the world. The wounded, the deceased, their friends, family and loved ones. And our Nation, the victims of war, pray for peace in the world. Say a pray for a man in full that his soul rest in blessed repose. Private First Class Ross Andrew McGinnis, who would have turned 21 on June 14, Flag Day. He was awarded the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest award for courage in battle. On December 4, 2006, in the gunner's hatch of a Humvee driving through Bagdad, PFC McGinnis saw a granade fly through the hatch rolling to where it could have injured the four other soldiers inside. In an easy position to save himself, McGinnis instead jumped to cover the granade with his body to shield his comrades. The 4 men were saved. McGinnis joined the Army on his 17th birthday, the first day he was eligible to enlist. A native of Knox, Pennslyvania. He was 6 foot tall but those who knew him said he seemed alot taller. Like many men and women in uniform, he answered the call knowing he may put in harm's way. At the moment it mattered, Ross McGinnis honored America's finest traditions and our own better natures. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam. Carmine D. |
DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Reply #116 Jul 4, 2008 9:16 am |
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HAPPY 4th of July. Today during the celebrations, food and fun, remember the men and women of our military services deployed throughout the world. The wounded, the deceased, their friends, family and loved ones. And our Nation, the victims of war, pray for peace in the world. Say a pray for a man in full that his soul rest in blessed repose. Private First Class Ross Andrew McGinnis, who would have turned 21 on June 14, Flag Day. He was awarded the Medal of Honor, the nation's highest award for courage in battle. On December 4, 2006, in the gunner's hatch of a Humvee driving through Bagdad, PFC McGinnis saw a granade fly through the hatch rolling to where it could have injured the four other soldiers inside. In an easy position to save himself, McGinnis instead jumped to cover the granade with his body to shield his comrades. The 4 men were saved. McGinnis joined the Army on his 17th birthday, the first day he was eligible to enlist. A native of Knox, Pennslyvania. He was 6 foot tall but those who knew him said he seemed alot taller. Like many men and women in uniform, he answered the call knowing he may put in harm's way. At the moment it mattered, Ross McGinnis honored America's finest traditions and our own better natures. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam. Carmine D. “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13
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