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DysonInventsBig
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Original Message Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am |
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Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread. . 
 
 
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #104 Jul 3, 2008 6:24 pm |
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Strange thing is that they were not gone for long. WM lost so many sales that they had to bring Dyson back. You chose to be a loser. WM chose to get back on track. It is not too late for you to beg forgiveness from Dyson too.
Yeah. A big wig in dyson had a close friend in WM and he begged his friend to ask WM to take dyson back in with an exclusive. $389 DC-07 and 2 year warranty. They are as popular as snow b-a-l-l-s in LV! Most WM stores couldn't move them off the shelves. Still can't. Recenty, they were selling for $320 with give back incentives to buyers. Still not selling. Dyson can give a 10 year warranty now and they still won't sell at $300. Not now. Not with gas prices going to $7 per gallon.
Carmine D.
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mole
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Reply #105 Jul 3, 2008 6:28 pm |
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Hey MOLE: Yes, all the talk about dyson MAP enforcement and price supports. Supposedly to assist the indy-s against big box stores' price competition. And the dealer only dysons. Sure! More like retailers' exclusives. Remember it all very well. Heard it enough from all the dysoners. The dyson crowd has short memories and forsight. Now they won't admit they were all wrong. And we were right. How soon they forget! Ask the question: What is the signature dyson? You can't get 3 dysoners to agree. Ask which is the greater dyson? And they are befuddled? Hasn't come yet. Each new one is supposed to be the greater. Only each new dyson is the lesser: Less air watts, less dirt bin capacity. More user maintenance! Greater price! Carmine D. Right you are Carmine, These guys ought to run for government office. The only job in the world where your paid a lot of money to be wrong. And a lifetime membership in the club. MOLE
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CarmineD
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Reply #106 Jul 3, 2008 6:35 pm |
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I do not think that anyone is denying the definition of permanent. In fact I posted it earlier and you twisted around the post. Are you still denying that that you said it could not be removed ? You mentioned recently that the clergy was very dear to you. Do they teach you to lie. The truth will set you free.
HS:
Same as a permanent cloth bag. Permament until removed. Meant to be permanent and stay on to serve a purpose and last forever . Not become removed accidently, unintentionally, and tossed because it can't get reinstalled. The clergy and religion are near and dear to my heart. But this thread is about dysons. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Reply #108 Jul 3, 2008 6:38 pm |
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Hey MOLE: Yes, all the talk about dyson MAP enforcement and price supports. Supposedly to assist the indy-s against big box stores' price competition. And the dealer only dysons. Sure! More like retailers' exclusives. Remember it all very well. Heard it enough from all the dysoners. The dyson crowd has short memories and forsight. Now they won't admit they were all wrong. And we were right. How soon they forget! Ask the question: What is the signature dyson? You can't get 3 dysoners to agree. Ask which is the greater dyson? And they are befuddled? Hasn't come yet. Each new one is supposed to be the greater. Only each new dyson is the lesser: Less air watts, less dirt bin capacity. More user maintenance! Greater price! Carmine D.
Remember when you said that each new Hoover was greater than the previous and I disagreed. I was the one who was right. Each was lesser. You said Dyson was gone and I disagreed. I was right.
The DC07 is the best DYSON (in my opinion).
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #109 Jul 3, 2008 6:41 pm |
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Remember when you said that each new Hoover was greater than the previous and I disagreed. I was the one who was right. Each was lesser. You said Dyson was gone and I disagreed. I was right. The DC07 is the best DYSON (in my opinion).
Right HS:
That's the reason you sold your DC07 after 3 years and bought a DC14 and returned it for a credit! And now use a Royal bagged for $299 and Kirby bagged Sentria. Makes perfect sense. Non-sense. Carmine D.
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
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Reply #110 Jul 3, 2008 6:59 pm |
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Remember when you said that each new Hoover was greater than the previous and I disagreed. I was the one who was right. Each was lesser. You said Dyson was gone and I disagreed. I was right. The DC07 is the best DYSON (in my opinion).
I agree with you there HARDSELL the DC07 is one of the best Dyson's and the most powerful to date...in the UK anyway!
DC18
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CarmineD
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Reply #111 Jul 3, 2008 7:14 pm |
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I agree with you there HARDSELL the DC07 is one of the best Dyson's and the most powerful to date...in the UK anyway! DC18
No doubt, DC18, for the UK. The DC07 was made especially for rugs and carpets in the UK/Europe. Low to mid pile. Not for rugs in the USA. Medium to high pile, loops and sculptured. DC07-14 have a puny brush bar and are outperformed by any/all the big box store brand uprights on rugs. [Which also come with manual rug height adjustments besting the dyson]. The reason in part the dyson brush bars were revamped to more USA industry standard brush rolls on subsequent models. To make them compete better for rug cleaning with the competition in the markets where dyson exports.
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Reply #112 Jul 3, 2008 7:39 pm |
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Kind of like a filter that doesn't clog...until it clogs. I get your thinking now. I wonder if NAD would agree with you.
Dusty
Well Dusty, NAD certainly didn't agree with dyson on the claim that its filters didn't clog.
Long before NAD disagreed, MOLE and I did too, here. All filters clog and we said so, even dyson. And when they do, suction decreases. More so than the fall off in suction when bags clog. Why? Filters have a smaller surface area than paper bags. Clog quicker. Takes less dirt to clog up a filter than a paper bag. And the consequences for permanent damage of a clogged filter to a vacuum motor trump a clogged bag easily [which requires removal and replacement of the dyson motor]. Didn't take me 450 engineers and 5127 prototypes to reach that conclusion. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #113 Jul 3, 2008 9:22 pm |
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Well Dusty, NAD certainly didn't agree with dyson on the claim that its filters didn't clog. Long before NAD disagreed, MOLE and I did too, here. All filters clog and we said so, even dyson. And when they do, suction decreases. More so than the fall off in suction when bags clog. Why? Filters have a smaller surface area than paper bags. Clog quicker. Takes less dirt to clog up a filter than a paper bag. And the consequences for permanent damage of a clogged filter to a vacuum motor trump a clogged bag easily [which requires removal and replacement of the dyson motor]. Didn't take me 450 engineers and 5127 prototypes to reach that conclusion. Carmine D. You and mole told us nothing that we do not know. Any filter that does not clog should not be there in the first place.
The DC0 filter does not clog as quickly as a bag. I only washed mine annually. Try using a bag more than a few times before suction drops.
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