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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Original Message Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am |
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Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread. . 
 
 
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CarmineD
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Reply #48 Jul 1, 2008 1:03 pm |
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A good reason to never buy anything in it's first year of production.
Dusty
Hello Dusty:
It's been over 6 years now for the DC07. And they are $289 vice $439. I still wouldn't recommend buying it to my worse enemy. There are too many better, less expensive makes and models now that compete for the bagless upright vacuum market. And that's the reason in large part dyson's market share has dropped precipitously in the UK in the last 3 years. Dropping in the USA too. The same will happen in Canada. Economics work the same in all markets, for all products, for all currencies. Just takes time for the market forces to work their way through the economies. Maybe different in Japan. Japanese like Mr. D. But they also like $4000 toilets that wash your privates with heated water, play your favorite tunes, and emit your favorite aromas. Consumers that pay $4000 for a toilet are probably willing to pay the same for a household vacuum. PT Barnum coined a name for them. He just forgot to say they would all be born Japanese! Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #49 Jul 1, 2008 4:35 pm |
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HS: It's permanent until you take it off. Your pants are permanent until you take them off. Pants don't fall off. Shouldn't! That's why there are belts and suspenders [for us old guys]. Let me think on your last question, and get back to you. I'm sure if there is something, one thing or other I stated in error, someone/everyone here would have corrected me at least a dozen times. Just so I don't forget! Carmine D.
Would it be so disgraceful to admit that you are wrong? You were wrong about the joint being permanent no matter how you twist your words.
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HARDSELL
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Reply #50 Jul 1, 2008 4:43 pm |
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Hello Dusty: It's been over 6 years now for the DC07. And they are $289 vice $439. I still wouldn't recommend buying it to my worse enemy. There are too many better, less expensive makes and models now that compete for the bagless upright vacuum market. And that's the reason in large part dyson's market share has dropped precipitously in the UK in the last 3 years. Dropping in the USA too. The same will happen in Canada. Economics work the same in all markets, for all products, for all currencies. Just takes time for the market forces to work their way through the economies. Maybe different in Japan. Japanese like Mr. D. But they also like $4000 toilets that wash your privates with heated water, play your favorite tunes, and emit your favorite aromas. Consumers that pay $4000 for a toilet are probably willing to pay the same for a household vacuum. PT Barnum coined a name for them. He just forgot to say they would all be born Japanese! Carmine D. What happens to liars
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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Reply #51 Jul 1, 2008 5:09 pm |
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In the UK the Dyson Brochures for the DC24 and DC25 plus the DC22 and DC23 it pitches them as DC24 for the smaller home (and the DC22 as well!) DC25 for the Bigger\larger Home (and the DC23 too!) So that tells us that Dyson designed the DC24 (and the canister DC22) for the smaller home, thats doesn't mean to say someone with a bigger house can't use it! Just be emptying the bin more regularly! If I'm not mistaken in the news article and press release from Dyson (UK) it stated the Engineers were given the task of making\designing\engineering smaller lighter vacuums due tot he fact UK homes were becoming smaller and space was a premium! Also when I investigated the DC24 in a shop the filter washing (which i believe I posted on here) was every 1 month! The 3-6 months is for the larger model DC25! Some of the above info is found in the 'Dyson DC24 / DC25 VAcs: Sir James Brings his Ball back' thread on this forum. DC18
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dusty
Joined: Feb 8, 2008
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Reply #53 Jul 1, 2008 5:39 pm |
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In the UK the Dyson Brochures for the DC24 and DC25 plus the DC22 and DC23 it pitches them as DC24 for the smaller home (and the DC22 as well!) DC25 for the Bigger\larger Home (and the DC23 too!) So that tells us that Dyson designed the DC24 (and the canister DC22) for the smaller home, thats doesn't mean to say someone with a bigger house can't use it! Just be emptying the bin more regularly! If I'm not mistaken in the news article and press release from Dyson (UK) it stated the Engineers were given the task of making\designing\engineering smaller lighter vacuums due tot he fact UK homes were becoming smaller and space was a premium! Also when I investigated the DC24 in a shop the filter washing (which i believe I posted on here) was every 1 month! The 3-6 months is for the larger model DC25! Some of the above info is found in the 'Dyson DC24 / DC25 VAcs: Sir James Brings his Ball back' thread on this forum. DC18 Hi DC18, Yep, the filters on the DC24 are labeled for washing monthly. We've been using the same machine around the store for demos for a couple months now and the pre-motor filter is starting to get dirty (hasn't penetrated to the other side yet) and the washable hepa shows no signs of needing cleaning. We sell this machine where it is designed for...smaller homes, condos, places with less carpet. I have no doubt that if you were to use it in a family home with pets and high traffic that the filters would need maintenance monthly. Dusty
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DC18
Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user
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Reply #54 Jul 1, 2008 7:49 pm |
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Hi Dusty Thanks for the info. Interesting to know the filter(s) last longer than a month. How do you rate the brush bar on this model? On my testing of the DC24 and DC25 in a shop i preferred the DC25 brush bar over the DC24! DC24 could be a little more aggressive. Could do with more brush turfs on the brush bar! DC18
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dusty
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Reply #55 Jul 1, 2008 10:18 pm |
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Hi Dusty Thanks for the info. Interesting to know the filter(s) last longer than a month. How do you rate the brush bar on this model? On my testing of the DC24 and DC25 in a shop i preferred the DC25 brush bar over the DC24! DC24 could be a little more aggressive. Could do with more brush turfs on the brush bar! DC18 With not having the DC25 in Canada I can't give you an answer on that one. The DC24 roller, though sparse with the brushes seems to do a decent enough job on the carpet. We use Dysons when we demo Capture or Sebo cleaning powder and the 24 does an admirable job at picking the powder up. Dusty
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Reply #56 Jul 2, 2008 7:06 am |
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If we used that logic would not all bag models have a permanent paper bag?
Dusty
Dusty:
Close but no cigar. More like a permanent cloth bag was long the vacuum vernacular in the industry I know and love. Read on. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Reply #57 Jul 2, 2008 7:10 am |
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Hello Gents: MOLE, yes the paper bag fits inside a cloth permanent bag. What sets this paper insert apart from others of the era [like the GE Cann] is the thin cardboard rim stitched and glued to the top of the paper bag. It allows the paper bag to sit tightly inside the groove on the top of the rubber gasket on the cloth bag rim that fits in the vacuum. Not surprised these are very hard to find and special orders. Wonderful straight suction vacuum, very quiet, with a very clean exhaust air for its old age. Lamb motor if I remember correctly. Carmine D. Hi Guys: I took the liberty to repost this from June 29. It was in response to MOLE on the thread about paper bags for the EUREKA rotomatic. Nothing to do with dyson and thumb tabs and ubend airways. Please note my use of permanent in the reply for the cloth bag. Of course it's not. Has to be removed to dump and clean. But a vacuum vernacular for cloths going back to my era. So goes the generation [perhaps 2] gap in vacuum communications my friends. Carmine D.
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