Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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dusty wrote:

Hello Dusty:

You said it for me.  Dyson also corrected the dirt bin problem.  These were givens.  Relatively simple changes and necessary for making.

But the gawdawful ratcheing noise, clutch shut off, puny DC07 brush roll, and self adjusting height adjustment for the brush nozzle head, and no headlight/cord winder are all still problematic.  The reasons dyson is scrubbing the model.  [IMHO].

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:

Hello Dusty:

It's been over 6 years now for the DC07.  And they are $289 vice $439.  I still wouldn't recommend buying it to my worse enemy.  There are too many better,  less expensive makes and models now that compete for the bagless upright vacuum market.  And that's the reason in large part dyson's market share has dropped precipitously in the UK in the last 3 years.  Dropping in the USA too.  The same will happen in Canada.  Economics work the same in all markets, for all products, for all currencies.  Just takes time for the market forces to work their way through the economies. 

Maybe different in Japan.  Japanese like Mr. D.  But they also like $4000 toilets that wash your privates with heated water, play your favorite tunes, and emit your favorite aromas.  Consumers that pay $4000 for a toilet are probably willing to pay the same for a household vacuum.  PT Barnum coined a name for them.  He just forgot to say they would all be born Japanese!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Would it be so disgraceful to admit that you are wrong?  You were wrong about the joint being permanent no matter how you twist your words.

CarmineD wrote:

What happens to liars

In the UK the Dyson Brochures for the DC24 and DC25 plus the DC22 and DC23 it pitches them as

DC24 for the smaller home (and the DC22 as well!)

DC25 for the Bigger\larger Home (and the DC23 too!)

So that tells us that Dyson designed the DC24 (and the canister DC22) for the smaller home, thats doesn't mean to say someone with a bigger house can't use it!  Just be emptying the bin more regularly!

If I'm not mistaken in the news article and press release from Dyson (UK) it stated the Engineers were given the task of making\designing\engineering smaller lighter vacuums due tot he fact UK homes were becoming smaller and space was a premium!

Also when I investigated the DC24 in a shop the filter washing (which i believe I posted on here) was every 1 month!  The 3-6 months is for the larger model DC25!

Some of the above info is found in the  'Dyson DC24 / DC25 VAcs: Sir James Brings his Ball back' thread on this forum.  

DC18

CarmineD wrote:
If we used that logic would not all bag models have a permanent paper bag? 

Dusty

DC18 wrote:
Hi DC18,

Yep, the filters on the DC24 are labeled for washing monthly.  We've been using the same machine around the store for demos for a couple months now and the pre-motor filter is starting to get dirty (hasn't penetrated to the other side yet) and the washable hepa shows no signs of needing cleaning. We sell this machine where it is designed for...smaller homes, condos, places with less carpet.  I have no doubt that if you were to use it in a family home with pets and high traffic that the filters would need maintenance monthly.

Dusty

Hi Dusty

Thanks for the info. Interesting to know the filter(s) last longer than a month.  How do you rate the brush bar on this model?  On my testing of the DC24 and DC25 in a shop i preferred the DC25 brush bar over the DC24!  DC24 could be a little more aggressive.  Could do with more brush turfs on the brush bar!

DC18

DC18 wrote:
With not having the DC25 in Canada I can't give you an answer on that one.  The DC24 roller, though sparse with the brushes seems to do a decent enough job on the carpet.  We use  Dysons when we demo Capture or Sebo cleaning powder and the 24 does an admirable job at picking the powder up.

Dusty

dusty wrote:

Dusty:

Close but no cigar.  More like a permanent cloth bag was long the vacuum vernacular in the industry I know and love.  Read on.

Carmine D.