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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #70   Jul 2, 2008 4:42 pm
JackD wrote:
I guess I'm still confused what the change was then.  If they "changed" it to make it "permanent" but it always has been removable does that mean it used to be disposable?


I can tell you are confused.  Let me try to assist you in your confusion.  Yes, in fact it was disposable.  Why?  During the dyson launch in 2002, many of the DC-07 display models lacked the joint. completely.   Either it was sitting along side the vacuum, or on top of the vacuum, and/or still in the box in the warehouse without a purpose in life.  As I said, the bright yellow colored thumb tab on the u bend air way joint was an open invitation for lookers to press/step on.  When they did, off it came and it stayed off.  Without the store staff knowing how to re-attach/for what purpose it was needed and used.  Pray tell:  Is it still that way JackD when you saw it??

Carmine D.

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dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264


Reply #71   Jul 2, 2008 4:47 pm
CarmineD wrote:
He knows already, I'm sure.  Permanent until it breaks off, and/or is replaced.  Certainly, it should not be used without a belt.  Hence, the belt is permanent.  Just like a permanent cloth bag.  Thank you, Dusty.

Carmine D.


Kind of like a filter that doesn't clog...until it clogs.  I get your thinking now.  I wonder if NAD would agree with you.

Dusty
dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264


Reply #72   Jul 2, 2008 4:59 pm
CarmineD wrote:
I can tell you are confused.  Let me try to assist you in your confusion.  Yes, in fact it was disposable.  Why?  During the dyson launch in 2002, many of the DC-07 display models lacked the joint. completely.   Either it was sitting along side the vacuum, or on top of the vacuum, and/or still in the box in the warehouse without a purpose in life.  As I said, the bright yellow colored thumb tab on the u bend air way joint was an open invitation for lookers to press/step on.  When they did, off it came and it stayed off.  Without the store staff knowing how to re-attach/for what purpose it was needed and used.  Pray tell:  Is it still that way JackD when you saw it??

Carmine D.


Jack already gave you an answer

That "upbend" thing slid off with a push of a thumb.  Kind of seems like it would come in handy to get stuff out that you probably shouldn't have run over in the first place.

Pretty impressive.  Jack managed to not only remove but put back the permanent UBend on his first attempt.  It's amazing nobody else could figure that out back in the day.

Dusty
DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294


Reply #73   Jul 2, 2008 5:44 pm
dusty wrote:
With not having the DC25 in Canada I can't give you an answer on that one.  The DC24 roller, though sparse with the brushes seems to do a decent enough job on the carpet.  We use  Dysons when we demo Capture or Sebo cleaning powder and the 24 does an admirable job at picking the powder up.

Dusty

Hi Dusty

Thanks for your reply.  I have never understood why Dyson brushes on their brush bars are spaced too wide apart!  Plus the brushes are very short! The DC25 has slightly smaller turfs but not so spaced out like the DC24 and I have to say when I tested the DC25 and DC24 the DC25 brush bar is a much welcomed improvement over the DC24, DC18 and DC15!  You could see the pile being lifted and groomed!

The original DC01 had triple row of brushes which where spaced out in line with each row, which worked very well!

DC18

DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294


Reply #74   Jul 2, 2008 5:50 pm
It's about time Dyson design a vacuum for the UK market!  I wonder if this new Vacuum will replace the US only DC17!

DC18!

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293


Reply #75   Jul 2, 2008 6:46 pm
CarmineD wrote:
From my perspective, obviously the minority, your statement proves my point that the u-bend airway joint is permanent.  No part of it should be unused/replaced/thrown away.  Thank you, Motor.

Carmine D.

Does this definition describe the u bend ?  I think not.

permanent"

not capable of being reversed or returned to the original condition

You originally said the u joint could not be removed.  That would be stationary which I (and likely all) suspect is whatg you intended to say.

sta·tion·ar·y (stsh-nr)

adj.
1.
a. Not moving.
b. Not capable of being moved; fixed.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293


Reply #76   Jul 2, 2008 6:48 pm
dusty wrote:
Kind of like a filter that doesn't clog...until it clogs.  I get your thinking now.  I wonder if NAD would agree with you.

Dusty


Also like the life time filter that last its lifetime.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293


Reply #77   Jul 2, 2008 6:49 pm
dusty wrote:
Jack already gave you an answer

That "upbend" thing slid off with a push of a thumb.  Kind of seems like it would come in handy to get stuff out that you probably shouldn't have run over in the first place.

Pretty impressive.  Jack managed to not only remove but put back the permanent UBend on his first attempt.  It's amazing nobody else could figure that out back in the day.

Dusty



Dusty,

I think we now know for sure that the DC07 is not for the mentally challenged like the "TWISTER".

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #78   Jul 3, 2008 6:21 am
Hello menschkins:

Looks like it's time to gang up on the old vacuum guy.  Let me ask you learned gents who posted:  Did you look up the definition of "permanent" in the dictionary?  Would you care to and post it here?  You're good at that Dusty.  I suspected you would have by now.  Unless it shoots down your argument?  If you do, then we can intelligently debate it's application to the u bend joint and the majority/minority views?  How's that menschkins? 

For all the dyson fans who believe the u bend air way joint is a good vacuum design and application, [I think Dusty you posted that if not Jack D, or JimB, I can't keep track of you dyson guys when you post in packs] did dyson continue to use on models after the DC14?  For example.....  Why?Why not?

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #79   Jul 3, 2008 6:33 am
dusty wrote:
Jack already gave you an answer

That "upbend" thing slid off with a push of a thumb.  Kind of seems like it would come in handy to get stuff out that you probably shouldn't have run over in the first place.

Dusty


Dusty and JackD, you know well that the thumb tab was removed and the fitting retooled to the vacuum.  Maybe you don't Dusty, because of the Canada perspective.  Maybe JackD doesn't either if he didn't know the original design and function.  He may be late to the game too.  But surely Motor does.  And of course the person who is conspicuously absent, the dyson expert.  Matt mmc AirBlade who addressed this matter long ago on the Forums.  In fact he agreed with me.

Where you be Matt mmc?  Get this pack of dyson rabid fans off me.  They know not what they speak.

Carmine D. 

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