Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hello, I'M not James Dyson but Sir James Dyson,I'm a legend IN MY OWN MIND,Boy I ;m so smart"" I can sue and cheat and lie with the best of them.I made huge amounts of money PLAYING YOU PEOPLE FOR SUCKERS.I want to thank you  people for the oppotunity of ripping you off.I knew my kirby background would come in handy at some point in time.
Just send me 25 beans and i'll show you how its done.

MOLE

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Tried to view and listen but the link is broken and experiencing technical difficulties.  Reminds me of a true story.  A number of yeras ago MONEY magazine [don't know if they are affiliated with Businessweek or not] printed in its yearly Dec/January edition its 10 BEST stock picks for the future.  HIGH ATOP the list was Global Crossing selling in the $40's per share at the time.  Right before the tech bubble burst in 1999/2000.  Within 5 months the company went belly up and the investors and employees lost everything.

Carmine D.

I fixed the link...

Sir James Dyson was interviewed (this week) on Businessweek.com
www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/video/executives/4a5bb621c4c456523c7fabcc3c4d6d6e4e86dd14.html

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Thanks.  I'll try again a little later.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

IN the same vein, today I received a legal notice that a company's stock I apparently owned years ago prevailed in a calss action suit against management and the brokerage houses that hawked and hyped the stock.  I don't recall owning but apparenatly I did.  The interesting fact is that the investors received an award of $2 MILLION plus which breaks down to about 4 cents a share for each share owned.  I had several thousand shares.  Do the math.  Ironically the lawyers who sued and won got $56 MILLION. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Couldn't view the video but heard the audio.  Of the approximately 4 minutes taken to answer 5 person's write in questions, I'd say James is not on the same page from a visionary/business point of view as his audience.  Several questioners taggged him/dyson as high end expensive luxury product brand and the negative impact of the current global economic meltdown on this branding marketing.  He disagreed with them but never answered their questions. 

Thanks for posting.  These short few minute tidbits reveal more about a person, company and its products than hundreds of words.  The message I take away is that dyson is in trouble.  Why?  As he says in the clip, when it comes to the current state of business affairs he is no expert.  And that's what it takes right now.  A business expert, not an inventor with 475 engineers bleedinng the company dry of cash.

Carmine D.

Dyson recently (June 2009) filed a trade mark for a 'Dyson Air Multiplier'. This may or may not be related to the vacuum cleaners, but I think it's the first of a new 'personal cooling' product range, that might be launched in the near future.

As the Dyson Digital motor lead to the development of the AirBlade hand drier, it looks like the 'Air Multiplier' is a further development of the idea.

Here's a patent filing from March 2009:-
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2009030881A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=20090312&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

It describes a 'bladeless' fan design, by the use of a circular nozzle and ideally, powered by a brushless DC motor.

Advantages are described as reduced noise, uniform air distribution and smaller profile. I would suspect that it would initially, at least, sell as a small desk fan. I'd guess there'd be no hurry to get a product like this out on to the Christmas market as the majority of homes don't require cooling aids for that time of year!

Hello M00seUK:

I have concluded from the many things posted on this thread and its originator that James Dyson is more concerned about registering a patent on the product than launching and marketing the product.  Apparently he likes the assurance of nailing another company and/individual with a lawsuit and collecting the infringement compensation than actually taking the risk/reward of producing the new products.

Maybe I have a mistaken view.  But even if I do, my thought is if it doesn't concern vacuums and real life products associated with vacuums and/or even floorcare products, perhaps all things dyson that makes the news is better served on a forum of dyson followers.  Not here.  I don't care, maybe others feel otherwise, about another patent filing by dyson that may/may not have relevance to vacuum products.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Au contraire Mr DiFazio, a trademark cannot be granted unless a company intends to use it with a product in the respective category (class). It would therefore seem that Dyson have every intention of marketing an 'Air Multiplier' and this derivative of vacuum cleaner technology, as described in the above patent, is highly likely to be a product that will be available in the near future.

Hello M00seUK:

Until the product is sold and I see that it relates to vacuums/floorcare, I for one have no interest in knowing.  Until then, dyson's plans/intentions are all speculation to titilate his fans here free of charge.   

Carmine D.