Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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Consumer Reports was most vocal.  Motor should remember very well the very first Consumer Reports review of the dyson DC07.  Why?  It was a lousy review.  Why?  CR was extremely critical of the dirt bin on the DC07.  Why?  The release button to disengage it from the vacuum was prone to be pressed when picked up by the bin handle by the user.  Result:  The user was left holding the dirty bin and the vacuum (18 pounds) was on the user's foot.  There is a picture engraved in my mind of the dirty deed in action in the CR edition.  Not Mr. D's finest hour.

Dyson corrected that problem too.  

Carmine D.

Carmine,

I think your pink was sabotaged and marked ' for sale to Carmine' .

Are you now saying that the joint is not permanent but not as easily removed?

I purchased my DC07 about 3 years ago and it had the removable joint.  I never incurred a problem with it. 

HS:

Yes, that's what I said based on a little assistance from Motor and Dusty.  It's permanent unless deliberately and intentionally removed with effort and forethought.  No longer does it fall off accidently and unintentially and remain off.

Please read my post about the Consumer Reports review and the DC07 dirt bin.  It's a dyson and CR classic.  I'm sure you never had the same problem as CR either with your dirt bin.  Doesn't mean it didn't exist.  Just means dyson, to its credit, took CR's criticism seriously and corrected the problems.  You may not recall/don't remember.  You were not posting on the vacuum Forums at the time, to my knowledge, as HARDSELL.

You're getting better HS.  Use to be you blamed my carpets: Mohawk wool loop medium pile.  Builder grade you called it.  Which it is not.  I special ordered.   Now you say the dyson vacuum was sabotaged.  If it is the latter, it was a permanent sabotage by dyson during the design, manufacture, and production.  It failed not just me but 2 other users too in their home carpet vacuuming.  You know what happens and the result.  Gawdawful ratcheting noise, brush roll stops turning, no cleaning being done.  Since all 3 of us have household pets, the constant ratcheting noise drove the poor animals wild.  Probably gave them permanent hearing loss and fear of vacuums. 

Carmine D.

So you incorrectly stated more than once that it was permanent.  What else have you told the forum that was a figment of your imagination?

HS:

It's permanent until you take it off.  Your pants are permanent until you take them off.  Pants don't fall off.  Shouldn't!  That's why there are belts and suspenders [for us old guys].

Let me think on your last question, and get back to you.  I'm sure if there is something, one thing or other I stated in error, someone/everyone here would have corrected me at least a dozen times.  Just so I don't forget!

Carmine D.

Hello Dusty:

You said it for me.  Dyson also corrected the dirt bin problem.  These were givens.  Relatively simple changes and necessary for making.

But the gawdawful ratcheing noise, clutch shut off, puny DC07 brush roll, and self adjusting height adjustment for the brush nozzle head, and no headlight/cord winder are all still problematic.  The reasons dyson is scrubbing the model.  [IMHO].

Carmine D.

Hello Dusty:

It's been over 6 years now for the DC07.  And they are $289 vice $439.  I still wouldn't recommend buying it to my worse enemy.  There are too many better,  less expensive makes and models now that compete for the bagless upright vacuum market.  And that's the reason in large part dyson's market share has dropped precipitously in the UK in the last 3 years.  Dropping in the USA too.  The same will happen in Canada.  Economics work the same in all markets, for all products, for all currencies.  Just takes time for the market forces to work their way through the economies. 

Maybe different in Japan.  Japanese like Mr. D.  But they also like $4000 toilets that wash your privates with heated water, play your favorite tunes, and emit your favorite aromas.  Consumers that pay $4000 for a toilet are probably willing to pay the same for a household vacuum.  PT Barnum coined a name for them.  He just forgot to say they would all be born Japanese!

Carmine D.

Would it be so disgraceful to admit that you are wrong?  You were wrong about the joint being permanent no matter how you twist your words.