Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

HS:You never opened the ORECK purifier to use it before returning.  You relied on other users to return it instead of testing it out yourself.  I see.  Do you use the same practice for buying vacuums and vehicles?  Don't bother to test drive but rely on others to make up your mind for your actions?  You're simply amazing!  But not in a good way like ORECK amazing!  

When I picked up the same KOHL's supplement from today's local newspaper, I noticed that the new DC25 ball model was substituted for the DC17 Animal in the KOHL's ad.  MSRP of $499 before 15, 20, and/or 30 percent off.  Latest and greatest discounted over dyson MAP and not even a Holiday sale.  Amazing!  That's sure to squelch alot of sales by BEST BUY stores of DC25 Animals which launched this week for $549.  I wonder what dyson rep approved that KOHL's dyson model switcheroo?  I know.  It's pay back for BB pulling the old switcheroo of the DC18 for the DC24 on the end cap space!

DIB: I admire your enthusiam for all things dyson and understand your denial about the dyson ball models and dyson niche sales.  We agree to disagree to quote you.  I enjoyed reading the story and the pic with the gentleman stealing a dyson DC14 from a TARGET store.  Thanks for posting.  But again I have to disagree with you on the thief's motive for stealing a dyson vice another brand.  Simple, my friend:  The dyson carton carrying handle!   Easier and more convenient!  I'm sure the thief was thinking: Thank you, dyson! 

I wonder what the felon's punishment will be?  Perhaps vacuuming the TARGET store [first time offender] and/or jail [repeat offender] with a bagged Dirt Devil? 

Here's a call out to the public defender/lawyer who handles the case.  I'll be a defense witness.  I'll provide expert industry evidence that a DC14 is overpriced.  Starting with Consumer Reports, then HS and MH's opinions of a DC14 [not nearly as good as a DC07], then the recent ASA ruling that sanctioned industry tests prove that the Electrolux Infinity's performance [MSRP $299] beats a DC14, and finally Vacuumfreeeke's posts about his purchase of a used DC14 for $100 on ebay.  The man will walk free.  The judge/jury will throw in a free dyson refurb for his trouble.  Why?  The man's sentence will be to vacuum and dump the dirt bin daily for 30 days.  After that, he'll never steal another dyson again.  Even with the nice carton carrying handle.

Carmine D.

HS:You never opened the ORECK purifier to use it before returning.  You relied on other users to return it instead of testing it out yourself.  I see.  Do you use the same practice for buying vacuums and vehicles?  Don't bother to test drive but rely on others to make up your mind for your actions?  You're simply amazing!  But not in a good way like ORECK amazing!  

When I picked up the same KOHL's supplement from today's local newspaper, I noticed that the new DC25 ball model was substituted for the DC17 Animal in the KOHL's ad.  MSRP of $499 before 15, 20, and/or 30 percent off.  Latest and greatest discounted over dyson MAP and not even a Holiday sale.  Amazing!  That's sure to squelch alot of sales by BEST BUY stores of DC25 Animals which launched this week for $549.  I wonder what dyson rep approved that KOHL's dyson model switcheroo?  I know.  It's pay back for BB pulling the old switcheroo of the DC18 for the DC24 on the end cap space!

DIB: I admire your enthusiam for all things dyson and understand your denial about the dyson ball models and dyson niche sales.  We agree to disagree to quote you.  I enjoyed reading the story and the pic with the gentleman stealing a dyson DC14 from a TARGET store.  Thanks for posting.  But again I have to disagree with you on the thief's motive for stealing a dyson vice another brand.  Simple, my friend:  The dyson carton carrying handle!   Easier and more convenient!  I'm sure the thief was thinking: Thank you, dyson!

DIB replied:  You had no response to my niche inroads Dyson enjoys. What is not a niche but obvious is the global shaping Dyson has contributed. Dyson is responsible for the clear bin type bagless phenomenon which is probably 50% of the worlds vacuum market. I'll say it again and all say it a little differently... any manufacturer running a clear bin on a vacuum is doing so because of James Dyson.

There is plenty of documentation (online news sources, police reports, video, images) of Dyson's and only Dyson's being the number one stolen vacuum. I've posted many times and from many different news sources demonstrating these Dyson thefts, yet you deny it. - You can deny it, you cannot disprove it.

I wonder what the felon's punishment will be?  Perhaps vacuuming the TARGET store [first time offender] and/or jail [repeat offender] with a bagged Dirt Devil? 

Here's a call out to the public defender/lawyer who handles the case.  I'll be a defense witness.  I'll provide expert industry evidence that a DC14 is overpriced.  Starting with Consumer Reports, then HS and MH's opinions of a DC14 [not nearly as good as a DC07], then the recent ASA ruling that sanctioned industry tests prove that the Electrolux Infinity's performance [MSRP $299] beats a DC14, and finally Vacuumfreeeke's posts about his purchase of a used DC14 for $100 on ebay.  The man will walk free.  The judge/jury will throw in a free dyson refurb for his trouble.  Why?  The man's sentence will be to vacuum and dump the dirt bin daily for 30 days.  After that, he'll never steal another dyson again.  Even with the nice carton carrying handle.

Carmine D.

The first clear dirt bin I recall in the USA vacuum market goes to the EUREKA bagless Whirlwind.  I'm sure you'll say EUREKA copied dyson, which at the time was still a homegrown UK product.  Note now that EUREKA's latest Capture uprights use color tinted bins to accent the color schemes of the vacuums.  I like the latter better than the nasty clear bins.   Did dyson ever sue over the copying?

DIB replies: Carmine, all cyclonic clear bins are based on Dyson's work. 50% of today's market use Dyson's discovery. This phantom or make-believe Eureka clear dirt bin you speak of as yet to come up amongst collectors and patents. The historian I spoke to of this question said there was a sight glass but no clear bin or clear cyclonic bin prior to Dyson. It is what it is.

I do recall you posting about several dyson vacuum thefts.  Matt mmc AirBlade even used this as the excuse for KOHL's stores to stock dysons in the warehouses rather than on the shelves.  I have to wonder what kind of person would risk stealing vacuums, even your fave brand of dysons.   Any answers/intelligence forthcoming to the question?  Has dyson taken any actions to preempt the pilferage?

DIB replies: Carmine, feel free to get into the psyche of thieves and what motivates them. All I know is what is evident, it's good for most but not you.

Carmine D.

Sight glass in a dirt bin?  Never heard of it.  Any proof forthcoming?  Perhaps a model name/number?  Must be confused with the clear soft plastic on the Lewyt Speed Saks from the 50's.  The EUREKA Whirlwind bagless used a clear dirt bin long before dysons hit the USA.  In fact, with yellow/black [depending on the model] bin components [same as your fave brand].  Perhaps your unnamed source is too young to remember?  Or too old, and forgot?

Here's my thoughts about motivations [thieves aside].  You posted on several occasions here about dyson thefts as did Matt mmc Airblade.  I presume, but not sure so I asked, to make a point that even among thieves dysons are in demand.  Somehow presuming that is proof for their popularity and success.  I have difficulty with an extrapolation that is based on thieves' actions and motives: That dyson vacuum thefts are tied to intrinsic value of them as commodities.  They're vacuums.  The only underlying point for their pilferage is that they are overpriced.  And thieves [especially those caught on surveillance cameras] are not too bright.

Carmine D.

Sight glass in a dirt bin?  Never heard of it.  Any proof forthcoming?  Perhaps a model name/number?  Lest your historical source be confused with the clear soft plastic on the Lewyt Speed Saks from the 50's.  

I presume, not sure so I asked, that you are making a point that even among thieves dysons are in demand.  Concluding that this is proof of their sales popularity/success.  This suggests that you, based on thieves' actions and motives, impute intrinsic value to dyson vacuums as marketable commodities.  They're vacuums, not works of art.  My thoughts on the matter are that dyson vacuums are overpriced.  And the thieves [especially those who are caught on surveillance cameras] are not very bright. 

I have a rhetorical corollary question to your hypothesis.  If thieves who steal dysons are not too bright then what does one conclude about the people who buy them?

Carmine D.