Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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CarmineD wrote:

That was your opinion.  Then you said that CR is critical of uprights, not just full size.

And CR is critical of uprights without adjustments.  But I said that rug height adjustments are standard for full sized uprights in the USA.  Not CR.  Get the facts and sources straight.  2 cups of joe may help.

Carmine D.

Hello, Today July 5th HSN's "Today Special" is a Dyson DC07 (white on dark grey) packaged/bundled deal.  The bundled deal is - It comes with 3 extra tools and free shipping.

Question:  Are independent Dyson dealers allowed by Dyson to match this bundle and price?  If not, what can they do to respond to such a price?  Thanks.        DIB

You  could also add Riccar, Panasonic, Sharp and Aerus to the list of units without height adjustments. Pretty big names not following the "american standard".

Dusty

dusty wrote:

Hello Dusty:

Depends on how you define "big names."  These brands typically are indy stores and not big box retailers.  Do you know some big box store brands sold along side dyson that don't have [headlights] and/or manual rug height adjustments?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Your original quote was that height adjustments were standard for ALL full size USA uprights.  Now it matters where  the product is sold?  Shall we assume most high end indy product is poor because it lacks a height adjustment?    For the record, last time I checked  Panasonic was sold in box stores, Eureka have models with no height adjustment as do Kenmore.  IMO the height adjust is  useless for most people,  the majority of machines that come in for repair are almost always set to the lowest setting.

Dusty

Dusty:

I stick by my statement.  Rug height adjustments are the standard for the industry for full size uprights.  Standard meaning the norm.  The norm because the majority of full sized uprights sold in big box stores and indy-s have rug height adjustments.  Is that better wordsmithing for all the dyson menschkins?

The point that I was making before this thread got diverted is this:  The dyson DC07 and DC14 are not suited for many USA carpets.  Why?  3 simple reasons.  First, the puny brush bar.  Not the industry standard in the USA.  Second, the lack of a rug height adjustment.  Also not the industry standard.  Third, the silly clutch brush bar shut off that is designed for obstructions.  It is engaged too easily by many of the carpets in the USA, unlike the UK. 

The latter so much so, dyson has a work around for it.  Remove the permanent gaskets on the permanent dyson soleplate.  One gasket first, and if that doesn't work, then the other.  If these work arounds don't work, then you're told to return the dyson.  Why?  Because if dysons won't work on your carpets after these 2 work arounds, they just won't work.  Period.  Which gets me back to my original point.  Not made for USA carpets especially if big box store venues.  Buyers get them home.  They don't work.  They are returned.  Ops. There's another dyson refurb.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Thanks for answering my question Carmine D.   Most UK houses have carpets (although in the 90's at least woodern floors were the in thing!, carpets making a comeback!) somewhere if not allover or in most rooms.  We have what we call 'under lay' under neath the carpet which can be different thicknesses!  Some carpet come back the under lay attached to the back (usually very thin)

I wouldn't say the pivoting head on the DC07 and DC14 are heavy (in my opinion)!  The idea or function is for it to float on top of the carpet.  How I see it thinker\longer pile carpet surely let air flow easier through the carpet piles unlike shorter\low pile carpets!

DC18

dusty wrote:

BTW, the RICCAR Brilliance and Radiance, its top of the line uprights, have manual rug height adjustments.  As well as the 1800 RICCAR Premium canister and the 1700 RICCAR Simplicity canister.  Both top of the line full size canister vacuums.  6 position if I recall correctly.  Also the RICCAR 1500 Series canisters [mid size] have 6 position height adjustments.  If I recall.

None of the dysons do.  NONE.

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:

EUREKA and Kenmore have models with manual rug height adjustments.  The Kenmore Progressive models, both in the upright and canisters.  Also top of the line models.  The EUREKA upright Boss Smart vacuum [$150] and Optima [$60] have rug height adjustments.  No dysons have rug height adjustments.  NONE.

The Electrolux Oxygen canister [owned, operated, and made by EUREKA] has a manual rug height adjustment.  As does the Twin Clean bagless canister [also owned, operated and made by EUREKA].   Also both are top of the line canisters.  No dysons have rug height adjustments.  NONE.

It is self-evident that in the USA rug height adjustments on vacuums are the norm, the standard, the expectation.  Even if dyson doesn't have them on any of its models.  NONE.   

Carmine D.