Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

CarmineD wrote:
That is correct.  Best Buys in nothing more than a portal for Shopping.com.  If you were to click on the Oreck link, the owner of Best Buys would get paid by Shopping.com for the traffic. The reviews on the site are pulled from Epinions.com  and not from site users themselves.  I don't believe the high end Orecks to be discounted as they can only be purchased from Oreck.com where all the other brands can be purchased from either online or box stores which explains the sub MSRP pricing.

Dusty

CarmineD wrote:

In the past few days you stated that those starr ratings are useless.  That was prior to your being able to use them to your advantage.  Think about it next time before you accuse someone of flip flopping.

dusty wrote:

Agree.  The ORECK XL 21 is marketed to a select group of vacuum buyers.  When you amortize the $750 over 21 years of guarantee the cost is $35 dollars per year.  There are no costs, save bags, associated with the vacuum over the 21 years.  And ORECK will put in a new bag free with each yearly tune-up.  For people who have this money for a vacuum, it is worth the money.  Obviously, I went with the least expensive XL Classic and no giveaways for $150 plus shipping.

Carmine D. 

This message was modified Jun 24, 2008 by dusty

HARDSELL wrote:

Generally you quote me HS, but this time you didn't.  Please go back to my posts on these several occasions.  On the ORECK thread.  My words are to this effect and I paraphrase: 

I don't believe negative ORECK reviews from anonymous posters.  I prefer my own personal and professional experience and those of people I know with ORECK-s. 

All rational consumers would think and say the same as me above.  Except you.  That's the reason I qualified my statement with 'rational.'   For the benefit of people like you who praise a bagless brand endlessly then sell it, and/or return a newly purchased one because they are dissatisfied with it.  With the sales proceeds/store credit buy and use a bagged brand instead that they like less.  And then try to justify the mistake by giving similar examples of mistakes in judgments from 40 years ago. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
While your math is sound it does not take into account things like agitator  replacement, broken fans, blockages, or belt changes that would all incur extra labor charges and not be covered under warranty.  You may get a freebie once a year on the belt but from my experience Oreck generally require 2 or 3 if used for routine vacuuming and those costs must be factored in.

Dusty

dusty wrote:

True to a degree.  A customer gets one tune up free per year.  If a blockage occurs, the customer can make that the free yearly tune-up.  No charge.  Or, the blockages are easy for users to correct themselves.  The ORECK Users guide shows clearly with directions and illustrations. 

I've used the Classic XL every day for over a year.  No blockages.  Brush is still brand new.  As are the edge cleaning whiskers.  My dear Wife picked up a quarter by mistake.  No broken fan.  I replace the belt every 6 months.  This is the ORECK store policy.  User Guide says 9 months, I think.  Cost is $3.00 from ORECK, less from a indy.  It is easy for a user to do and the Users Guide illustrates and explains.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
You, being in the industry know what a vacuum is supposed to do.  Most people think it is a garbage disposal on wheels and if it's on the carpet they will run over it.  Toothpicks, lego, socks under the bed, screws, leaves and whatever  else you can think of I have taken out of vacuums at some point.  If everyone vacuumed like you (or I for that matter) I would agree with you completely but generally it's not so. Not having Oreck stores in Canada I'm not sure of this but all though the belt is $3.00, do they charge labor to install it?

Dusty

dusty wrote:

Dusty:

I use to tell my vacuum customers that a vacuum will live a long life with a little care and love, but it will surely die a costly death without it.  Do you tell your customers the same?

Do you charge labor to replace an ORECK belt?

Carmine D.

Let me clarify with another reason why I found the dyson DC16 epinions interesting.  Especially as it relates to bestbuys.com.  All the dysons with the better star ratings are discounted from MSRP, substantially.  The DC16 dyson with the worse rating [2.5 stars] is not.   Full MSRP of $149.  18 dyson vacuums with beautiful star ratings get discounted from MSRP.  One dyson with the worse does not.  Anyone else find that interesting?  Anyone find it absurd?  Laughable?

I'll answer my own question.  Yes, dyson USA does.  Why?  Because it discounts the DC16 by $100 if you buy another dyson.  Other retailers will too or giveaway. 

Carmine D.