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DysonInventsBig
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The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Original Message May 29, 2008 12:41 pm |
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ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related. (Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)
< yr. 1979 < yr. 5/2008
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #128 Jun 21, 2008 6:16 am |
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You are beginning to sound like Carmine. Call it what you wish. Performance declines as the bag fills. HARDSELL, DIB:
Dyson performance declines as its filters clog. Even burn out the motor. Not so with paper bags. Mr. Dyson and the dyson heads admit this with the latest dysons: DC24/25. Hence, the reason for the required [read mandatory] filter maintenance to keep the warranty effective. We also know even the soon to be discontinued dyson models DC07 and DC14 clogged, lost suction, lost performance and burned out motors. Many have been returned to the big box retailers and indy dealers for those reasons. These are the dyson refurbs that are flooding the market. And most likely the reason you will not state the filter cleaning reasons on the latest dyson DC24/25. Begs the question: Why should a vacuum consumer pay $500 plus for a dyson with filters that clog [DC24/25] and require mandatory monthly/quarterly user maintenance to keep them clean? Any big box store vacuum can do as well, if not better, for much less money and work. Especially if they are not vacuuming the Indy/Daytona 500 race tracks, just their homes. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #129 Jun 21, 2008 6:42 am |
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Even the most ardent anti-ORECK-ers here admit that the ORECK staff and stores are professional and pristine. Always! I have to impute and deduct that the same degree of professionalism goes into the making of the ORECK products, parts, repairs, and warranty coverage. Despite one or two anti ORECK-ers who may anonymously post otherwise. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #130 Jun 21, 2008 9:50 pm |
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Even the most ardent anti-ORECK-ers here admit that the ORECK staff and stores are professional and pristine. Always! Carmine D.
Once again you are posting as you want it to be and not like it is.
How many here have admitted this?
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #131 Jun 22, 2008 6:09 am |
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Once again you are posting as you want it to be and not like it is. How many here have admitted this? HS: I have a habit to stop in and observe vacuum stores in operation. ORECK included. Based on my observations, over 50 plus years, ORECK is the model for a vacuum store operation. Several regular posters here in the vacuum business have made similar comments, not just me. Although, MOLE has the patent on the bagless model on display in his showroom floor. His sales pitch that kills the bagless vacuum sale is poignant. Some, like DIB who has been conspicuously absent from here by his silence, may say it's a trick of the trade. I prefer to say that it is the truth of the trade. The crux of the matter for the bagless vacuum weaknesses. Sheer genius on MOLE's part, as Lucky 1 attests. The more appropriate question you should ask is this: Has anyone here ever posted that they found an ORECK store, in the course of their vacuum shopping and buying, that does not have a professional appearance with professional staff? Inside and outside. Where are these stores located, if there are any? As I mentioned of all the 475 ORECK stores opened, not one has ever closed. A testament to their operations. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #132 Jun 22, 2008 7:44 am |
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HS: I have a habit to stop in and observe vacuum stores in operation. ORECK included. Based on my observations, over 50 plus years, ORECK is the model for a vacuum store operation. Several regular posters here in the vacuum business have made similar comments, not just me. Although, MOLE has the patent on the bagless model on display in his showroom floor. His sales pitch that kills the bagless vacuum sale is poignant. Some, like DIB who has been conspicuously absent from here by his silence, may say it's a trick of the trade. I prefer to say that it is the truth of the trade. The crux of the matter for the bagless vacuum weaknesses. Sheer genius on MOLE's part, as Lucky 1 attests. The more appropriate question you should ask is this: Has anyone here ever posted that they found an ORECK store, in the course of their vacuum shopping and buying, that does not have a professional appearance with professional staff? Inside and outside. Where are these stores located, if there are any? As I mentioned of all the 475 ORECK stores opened, not one has ever closed. A testament to their operations. Carmine D.
Just the facts please.
How many here have admitted this?
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #134 Jun 22, 2008 9:04 am |
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HS: The facts speak for themselves as always. 45 years in business and 475 stores nationwide. ORECK is the standard bearer for lightweight vacuums that all others are measured against. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #135 Jun 22, 2008 1:56 pm |
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Hello MOLE: I've talked and still do with the ORECK store owners and managers when I have occasion. Inevitably they speak highly of the business relationship with ORECK. Even those who are no longer with ORECK have only praise for the products, people, and business experience. Many of the ORECK stores' staff people go to ORECK after spending time with other vacuum brands, like Kirby, Electrolux, Rainbow and even HOOVER. They usually rate ORECK as good, and more often better, than the others for employee-employer relations. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #136 Jun 22, 2008 3:45 pm |
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Even the most ardent anti-ORECK-ers here admit that the ORECK staff and stores are professional and pristine. Always! Carmine D. TELL US WHICH ANTI-OREDKER ON HERE MADE THIS STATEMENT. THIS IS MY THIRD REQUEST FOR THE INFO AND YOU HAVE FAILED ONCE AGAIN IN ANSWERING. YOUR HABITIAL LIEING IS COMICAL. SORT OF LIKE YOUR CLAIM THAT ALL ORECK BUYERS ARE 100% SATISFIED. WHEN I PROVED OTHERWISE YOU BEGGED TO DROP THE ISSUE. MOST ARE AWARE OF YOUR BS BY NOW.
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #137 Jun 22, 2008 6:12 pm |
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TELL US WHICH ANTI-ORECKER ON HERE MADE THIS STATEMENT. THIS IS MY THIRD REQUEST FOR THE INFO AND YOU HAVE FAILED ONCE AGAIN IN ANSWERING. My good HS: I am the most ardent anti-Orecker, bar none. Over 40 plus years in the business and never sold a new ORECK. Turned Dave down when he wanted me to sell them. Refused. How much more anti-ORECK can you be? Even Dusty, who pushes dyson as the best bagless over many bagged vacuums, sells ORECK-s. Finally I bought one to make my dear Wife happy after she saw and used one many years ago. She never stopped raving and ranting about it. Said she loved the way it devoured this white powdery stuff in the store's demo. She said it would do the same for all the sand. She was right. ORECK is the best vacuum we've used in my our home since the HOOVER WT! Over the course of my 50 years in the vacuum business, I've personally and professionally visited at least 100 ORECK stores nationwide from coast to coast. Based on my personal and professional opinion, I admit that they are the model for all vacuum stores to emulate. Carmine D.
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