Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Do you think dyson is not worried about a 15 percent market share loss in 3 years?  In the UK?  Its country of origin for production of the brand name and inventor?  I seriously doubt it.  That drop sets off bells and whistles and raises red flags.  Something very serious is happening.   

The US with a population of 300,000,000 plus sells 20 million new full sized vacuums every year [give or take a few percent].  For example NAD reported 2007 new vacuum sales off 3 percent.  I suspect all in new dysons.  Probably down more but the other vacuum brands increased.  The 20 MILLION number has been consistent since 1997 when US population was about 285 million.  For 10 plus years in the USA, despite ups and downs in the economy, 20 million new vacuums are sold each year. 

The vacuum brands vying for that 20 million in new unit yearly sales would be highly upset if they lost 15 percent in 3 years.  Stay the same year over year?  Yes, that's doable and okay.  Last years' sales numbers are the starting point for all brands when projecting new yearly sales.  Losing market share?  An average of 5 percent a year for 3 consecutive years steady.  Totally unacceptable.  Unless times are bad [as they are now AND the 20 million units sold per year goes down].  Then the vacuum brand had better have the same percent of the fallen market too.  Or, something is seriously wrong.  Big box retailers kick the declining sales brand out and off the shelves.  Quick like.  Make room for the brands selling.  This is happening now with the dyson brand name here in the US.

Is the UK vacuum market different than the US?  If so, how and why?  Don't say durable consumer goods go down in sales year over year.  That is untrue.  Brand name sales of durable products go down year over year, not the total durable product sales.  Attrition of consumer durable goods [like vacuums] accounts for the steady sales numbers for 10 years.  MOLE and LUCKY 1 got it right.  As a Brit and loyal dyson fan, you got it wrong. 

The durable consumer product numbers [for vacuums] year over year stay the same, usually go up, or in extremely rare cases go down.  The latter if the conditions I mentioned above occur.  Then that brand name of the consumer durable product had better have the same percent of the lower number of product sales.   Or heads roll [if you are a publicly traded company, which we all know dyson is not]. 

Carmine D.

Dysons don't clog is the crux of the dyson vacuum for $500.  When this claim fell apart, so did the premise for buying dyson vacuums.  Ball technology instead of clogging?  Give me a break.  Sure some prefer to move on and forget it.  That's easy and best for dyson.  They don't want the bough to break and the mighty good Sir Knight to fall.  What will become of the HS?

Carmine D.

Same old same old from a former dyson user who sold his DC07, took the proceedes and bought a DC14, returned his new DC14 because it was unsatisfactory and bought a bagged Royal Eminence for $299.  

I don't believe most anonymous ORECK reviews that are negative, like yours.  I trust my own judgment based on my usage and professional ORECK experience and those of other ORECK users who I know personally and professionally. 

Carmine D.

I'll share it with you off-line in a private message only if you promise not to divulge to others and buy a new dyson.  So I can laugh again. 

Carmine D.

I speak for myself regardless of the consequences.  Read on.

Forbes fails to mention that the entire foundation on which the 5127 prototypes was built is a hoax.  The claim: Dysons don't clog, so dysons don't lose suction.  That's a false and untrue statement and comes right from the dyson product literature. 

I can't fault Forbes completely, although I do partly.  The info is provided by dyson which of course prefers to remain silent on the matter.  Changing the dyson mantra and moving on, as one said here in the past.  But is it that simple?  If words could only make it so.  Witness now: The latest and greatest dysons and the filter maintenance needs.  Why?  Dysons do clog.  When filters/bags clog, vacuums lose suction.  Even dysons. The whole dyson mantra was founded on a big myth.  4 million people buy into the dyson myth yearly.  But will they continue?  Look to the UK consumers for your answer.  43 percent dyson market share in 2004.  28 percent in 2007.  Hello Forbes:  Did you ask why? 

Dysons don't clog is the crux of the dyson vacuum for $500.  When this claim fell apart, so did the premise for buying dyson vacuums.  Ball technology instead of clogging?  Give me a break.  Sure some prefer to move on and forget it.  That's easy and best for dyson.  They don't want the bough to break and the mighty good Sir Knight to fall.  What will become of the HS?

How about the consumers who plunked down $500 based on the claim?  Why so many dyson refurbs?  Disgruntled dyson buyers, fed a crock, who returned their $500 vacuums when they clogged and lost suction?  Perhaps.  Forbes:  There's your next story.  Get on it!

You want to defend your hero Mr. Dyson?  Be my guest.  Don't expect me to agree.  

Carmine D.