Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hello,

I am looking at purchasing a good vac for pet hair.  I am considering the above 2 or something else.  I prefer a bagless upright that has attachments.  I like the price of the Sanitaire.  I also would like something that is reliable.  Thanks for any help!

Hello Dusty:

The dyson bin is easy to dump.  Other bagless bins too.  Big Headache: Where do you dump it?  Inside?  Outside?  Either way, a hassle and problem.  Especially as the dyson bins get smaller.  What that's all about?

Dyson prices had to fall and MAP get scrubbed.  20 percent and more off the dyson MSRP is normal with added bonus of giftcards and store cash.  That's how the dyson brand survives now at the big box retailers.  Exclusive dyson models are long gone. 

Simple on the certifications.  The certs are granted for one reason and one reason only.  They are based on the users reading and following the dyson User Manual for dirt bin dumping.  Why do you think dyson devotes 2 pages of explicit detail and instructions.  [I'm sure you recommend to all your dyson buying customers who are allergy and asthma sufferers to read and follow the dyson instructions]. 

The halo with UV-C for germ killing is mentioned frequently.  The CEO, Mr. Garcia, commissioned a study to prove halos used regularly are better for asthma and allergy sufferers.  Why do you think halo comes with a paper bag?  Not bagless.  So doctors can recommend to their asthma and allergy patients?  You're getting warm.

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:

Dusty:

I thoroughly agree with the words from your post that I highlighted. 

If you want me to believe that dyson is and will be the only bagless vacuum game in town then answer this for me:  Why has dyson new market share in the UK dropped from a high in 2004 of 43 percent to 28 percent in 2007.  That's  an average drop of 5 points in market share per year for 3 years.  Why?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

People who have enough sense to come out of the rain can empty a Dyson bin cleanly, less sense would be problematc (“big headache”).        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Obviously, you never ever saw the 1952 movie with Gene Kelly: "Singin in the Rain."  Great movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045152/

Where do you empty your dyson dirt bin?  Indoors or out?  How often?  Do you suffer from allergies and/or asthma?  Know any one who does [suffer from allergies, sinuses, asthma] and owns a dyson vacuum?  Do they follow the dyson User Instructions for dumping the dirt bin? 

Why do you think halo is bagged and not bagless?  Conspiracy to sell paper bags?  You're cold!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Still have comprehension problems I see.  Dusty did not say that Dyson is or will be the only bagless.  Now please tell us a comparable bagless.  You didn't even know that Oreck was superior to Hoover until your wife guided you in that direction.  Why don't you tell us why Dyson has lost market share?  Please give facts as your opinions are biases and useless.

HARDSELL wrote:

HARDSELL:

I never thought you'd ask. 

Answer:  LESS EXPENSIVE AND BETTER PERFORMING VACUUM COMPETITION.  Bagged and bagless.  Now, what do you think is [are] the reason [s].

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I don't want you to believe Dyson is the only bagless vacuum game in town, just that they aren't going vanish into thin air.  UK market share has many factors..economic time (as you're going thru in the states) , the fact they moved production to Malasia didn't help matters on the home front either.  What's wrong with 28 percent by the way?  I would think most companies would be jumping for joy with numbers like that.  In Canada they are sitting at 24 percent market share in 3 years.  Not to bad either.  You don't think Oreck or Sebo would love to have those numbers?  No, Dyson isn't the only bagless vacuum but it is number one and I don't think that's going to change.

Dusty

CarmineD wrote:
Where do you empty your bag?  Do you follow the guide on your Oreck bag or like most people try and cram as much dirt into it as you can.  Every tried to take the bag out when that happens?  The minute you pop the bag off its mount there is dust in the air.  Now you have to actually try and lift it out of the cloth bag.  I've had bags that way a good 5 pounds and are so packed into the cloth bag it's almost a two person job to get it out.  The Dyson is no different than any other appliance, you follow the instructions and you won't have a problem.  I've seem people screw up every vacuum on the market because they neglect to read the book.  If that happens, it's their own problem not the vacuums.

Dusty

dusty wrote:

Dusty:  What's wrong?  Dyson's lost 15 percent in 3 years.  By dyson's own admission.  [I think it may even be more].  By dyson numbers that's 5 percent a year.  What other vacuum brand has lost that much market share in the UK in 3 years?  At that rate of attrition, dyson will disappear into thin air in the UK in just 5 more years!  Maybe sooner. 

Carmine D.

dusty wrote:
Will you still defend dyson if the huge margins goes away?,WHAT IF SEBOS MARGIN WAS ONLY 5% would you expell the virtues of it?,How many times do i have to tell you there is going to be no money in it and very soon,
Dont get sucked into their B.S. I would be willing to bet that europro still has plenty of fantoms left,after the buyout,

How does it feel to be run out of business by the same companies you push?

Get me once shame on you get me twice shame on me.

My good friend from CANADA,[VERNON] has the real lowdown on the canadian numbers,

been there done that

THE-MOLE