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DysonInventsBig


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The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Original Message   May 29, 2008 12:41 pm

ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related.

(Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)



  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008


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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #76   Jun 4, 2008 12:11 pm
Hello HARDSELL:

I'm too young to play golf so $2000 in clubs would be a waste of money for me.  Maybe when I get older I'll take up the sport.  We have alot of greens here even right on the Community grounds.

I can't answer all your questions at the same time, because I realize you have limited memory and recall capacity.

Why?  I've said several times on the Forum what I did with the HOOVER Z-s.  I think I even messaged you privately about them at least once.  You forgot.  It happens when you get old.

My first HOOVER Z I owned from March to August 2006 in Virginia, shortly after it came out.  I got a deal from the local BEST BUY.  I used it while I was sprucing up the homestead for sale.  Like Carl Prohlman I too used it for dry wall patching after removing pictures, repairing wall board cracks, debris from upgrading all the kitchen appliances [including meeting new building codes], replacing old insulation in the attic and basement, and re painting the entire house almost 3000 square feet.  The HOOVER Z did very well.  I left the Z for the agent selling the house to use and for the new owners after the sale.  I mentioned too, you forgot, that the selling agent initially asked us to replace the carpets to sell the house.  She changed her mind after I vacuumed the carpets with the Z and she took another closer look.  The carpets were 23 years old.

Now the 2nd Z.  I purchased this and gifted to a local Church.  The Church has been using since November 2007.  I mentioned on here that the Z was used to vacuum up the flowers and plants that fell on the rug during the Holy Week of Easter.  I watched the young lady, not the maintenence man who had blew out his knee, use the HOOVER Z.  There were about 10-12 Church volunteers assiting in the clean up in preparation of Easter Sunday Masses.  All were impressed with the Z, not knowing I gifted it.  Read on.

The worship area is currently undergoing a new face lift after 9 years.  Drywall, painting etc.  Guess what vacuum is being used?  Right! The HOOVER Z!  Very good.  You catch on quick.

Having used the ORECK for a year, and my dear Wife loving it, I gifted the HOOVER WT away several weeks ago.  I mentioned that too before here at least once.  To another new Church starting up in need of a vacuum.  It will be 2 years in August.  But looks and runs like new.  The WT is 17 pounds.  The ORECK is 8.  I vacuum daily.  I have a bad back.  Guess what vacuum is easier to use?  ORECK!  Right.  Very good.  You are learning quickly!

Sorry, but unlike you I never owned a HOOVER FUSION, save the FUSION razor and my dear Wife who rented the FORD car recently and is so impressed she wants to buy one.  We might.

Now, I think I got it all answered for you.  But if not, let me know.  I'll do my best.  I say with almost absolutely certainty that I will buy more ORECK-s.  I like the product, the company, the warranty and the fact that its made in the USA for over 45 years. 

Sad that the HOOVER Z came when it did: During the throes of a major takeover with uncertainty and poor national economic conditions.  It has many desirable features which are patented and/or under review for patent.   I enjoyed using the HOOVER Z.  More so than the dyson DC07 yellow [a loaner] and pink [owned].  The former worked OK for my 23 year old rugs in Virginia.  Not as good as the Z.  The latter failed me miserably on my new rugs in my LV home.   

Carmine D.

 

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Just


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #77   Jun 4, 2008 3:17 pm
The thing about history is it is destened to be repeated.

Remember the infamous Oreck XL21 thread?

Hardsell, Carmine, I admire both of you for your convictions and knowledge.   So, How about those Filter Queens?

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #78   Jun 4, 2008 4:00 pm
Just wrote:
  So, How about those Filter Queens?



Hello Just:

Made in the USA, like ORECK-s.  And little to no innovation and changes in design, form and function for years just like ORECK.  Typically used by vacuum shops as their back room and under the work bench vacuum.  How's that for starters? 

Sounds like the beginnings of another thread!

Carmine D.

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Just


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #79   Jun 4, 2008 4:52 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Just:

Made in the USA, like ORECK-s.  And little to no innovation and changes in design, form and function for years just like ORECK.  Typically used by vacuum shops as their back room and under the work bench vacuum.  How's that for starters? 

Sounds like the beginnings of another thread!

Carmine D.



Sounds perfect--you wanna start it or shall I?

Then let's do Air-Way (now deceased)

I have never had these machines, but really liked them.

CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #80   Jun 5, 2008 7:24 am
Just:

Both wonderful brands and vacuums that got stuck in time.  Or maybe not.  Despite their aderence to original form and function and lack of innovation, they remain classics in the vacuum industry.  Now and forever.

Thanks for starting the new thread.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #81   Jun 5, 2008 9:48 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
First it was Hoover on every Dyson topic.  Now we get Oreck on every Dyson topic.  All this BS from one who consistently wants us to stay on topic.

Since that can't happen I will offer a suggestion for Oreck.  Get a  belt that will not deteriate while sitting on the show room as a demo unit.  That should not rase the price more than $100.



Hello HARDSELL:

I took your suggestion and transferred your response to the appropriate thread.

You' re obcessed over baking soda and belts.  I don't mind a $2-$3 belt change every 4-5-6 months for a $200 ORECK.  At the end of 5 years, the total cost is $20-$30.  Chump change for a little old vacuum man like me. 

No different than having to wash and dry filters every 4-5-6 months except a dyson runs $500 plus.  ANd replacement filters for dry spares are very costly, if you can find them.  More like $20 to $30 a pop.  And you can't scarf up $299 for a new vacuum let alone purchasing/maintaining/replacing pre-post motor filters too.  

If you kept your dyson DC07/14 long enough, you'd need a belt/clutch replacement.  You're talking $130.  I understand why you sold your DC07 after 3 years and bought a Royal Eminence.  That's called a smart move! 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #82   Jun 5, 2008 11:26 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello HARDSELL:

I took your suggestion and transferred your response to the appropriate thread.

You' re obcessed over baking soda and belts.  I don't mind a $2-$3 belt change every 4-5-6 months for a $200 ORECK.  At the end of 5 years, the total cost is $20-$30.  Chump change for a little old vacuum man like me. 

No different than having to wash and dry filters every 4-5-6 months except a dyson runs $500 plus.  ANd replacement filters for dry spares are very costly, if you can find them.  More like $20 to $30 a pop.  And you can't scarf up $299 for a new vacuum let alone purchasing/maintaining/replacing pre-post motor filters too.  

If you kept your dyson DC07/14 long enough, you'd need a belt/clutch replacement.  You're talking $130.  I understand why you sold your DC07 after 3 years and bought a Royal Eminence.  That's called a smart move! 

Carmine D.



Carmine understang.  That is an oxymoron.
CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #83   Jun 6, 2008 7:15 am
Hello HARDSELL:

Is oxymoron another baking soda test for ORECK?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #84   Jun 6, 2008 8:54 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello HARDSELL:

Is oxymoron another baking soda test for ORECK?

Carmine D.



No. The oxymoron is kapok being used in homes.
CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #85   Jun 6, 2008 12:29 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
No. The oxymoron is kapok being used in homes.




Sorry HARDSELL:

Not homes.  But, in the independent vacuum stores.  Whenever a customer asks about how good/bad a dyson is, out comes the kapoc.  Toss some on the rug and ask the potential dyson customer to pick it up with a dyson DC07/14.  The result nixes the dyson sale and interest for good. 

Then the store owner/operator does the kapoc test with his/her vacuum[s] of choice.  Like the ORECK.  The new vacuum sale is made. 

Dyson and the kapoc test have revolutionized and reinvigorated the sales of all non-dyson vacuums in the independent vacuum stores.  I'm told its the best demo test to nix a dyson and sell another brand than any other demo in the vacuum industry.    

Carmine D.

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