Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008

DIB:

Society doesn't benefit by the drug patent holder claiming exclusive ad infinitum usage and charging high prices.  Society benefits when other drug makers offer generics at less cost.  Just as consumers don't benefit from $500 bagless dysons when $100-$200 bagless Dirt Devils, HOOVER-s, BISSELL-s etc perform as well. 

The Wall Street Journal has the best news coverage of the TRICOR drug case.  I'm a reader but not an on-line subscriber.  Sorry.   BTW, the WSJ appears to be on the side of the generics against TRICOR.  IMHO

Carmine D.

HARDSELL:

Kapoc is an industry standard test for carpet cleaning and has been for years.  Baking soda on floors is not.  You got this perverted cockeyed notion from Tom Gasko, who doesn't know anything about ORECK-s.  If my ORECK devours pounds of sand monthly from my outdoors, brought in by the grands and the dogs, which is considerably harder to vacuum up, baking soda is a do nothing no contest.

If it's not a Rainbow, Air Way or dyson [he's sold all of them at one time or another always claiming each as the best], Tom impugns it.  That's his standard Forum mantra for years on all things related to vacuums.

BTW, while kapoc is made to simulate real life home carpet lint debris, like pet hair, rug nap and cotton that has a tendency to cling to rugs, baking soda does not occur naturally in the home environment.  Except perhaps yours and Tom Gasko.

Carmine D.

Carmine,

Infinitum? – Is there such a thing?  Long term, the patented drugs will in time become public domain (generic drugs) and society will be the better for it.

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I wonder what percentage (if any) of generic drug makers actually invest and invent their own and badly needed breakthru drugs.  And to those generic makers who do not invest and invent, then much criticism should also be placed at their very, very deep pocked feet and not just the healers.

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Thanks for the news source. 

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Your opinion of Dyson and his business model is not shared.        DIB

Ad infinitum:  Latin term meaning for eternity, endless, limitless.  It creeps into my speaking and writing. 

I speak for and by myself not for others regardless of the consequences.

Carmine D.

I know the word.  I know of no drug maker who’s been granted a limitless patent monopoly as you suggest.        DIB

Blaming inferior performance of the Oreck on a belt. You are as desperate as I have ever seen you.  If the belt has to be replaced so frequently on a demo unit or even if the Oreck has been sitting idle then maybe ol Dave should hire some Dyson engenieers and get in this century.  My be its that a Dyson will perform after sitting idle for years.

BTW, catlady did not say the Oreck was inferior to only the Miele.  She simply insinuated that it had poor performance.

T'is I my good Lad, Carmine D.  Have had only coffee, ice tea, and orange soda today like most days.  Mr. Daniels is reserved for limited and infrequent occasions.  Usually when I call upon and toast with others those men among men who came/left before me.

Carmine D.

How do you imbed Kapok into the carpet?  I am willingto bet you that more homes have baking soda on the hard floors and in the carpet than they do Kapok.  I believe that I was the first to recommend baking soda as a test for vacuum performnce on hard surfaces.  It certainly is mor like dust than Kapok.

Again, baking soda is a home staple.  Kapok is not.

You need to vacuum all the Kapok you can and make a life preserver.  I tlooks like you will sink before you get back in the life boat.

Since baking soda is a no contest why not tell us how your Oreck performed on the test.

Carmine:  I did go back and re-write and remove said remark, but you got to my post within seconds of posting and before the rewrite.  Lawsuits and the destruction they bring make me think before going full bore.  I've seen it happen first hand.  You may write for yourself but when hauled off to court over nonsense, the cost of it is covered by the family nut.  And so it is risky and so perhaps I wondered if  maybe Mr. D. was talking.  Good to hear you say no.        DIB