Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008

You're silly bordering on ridiculous.  Kapoc is an industry test for carpet cleaners.  Has been for years.  Most if not all independent vacuum stores use it.  It simulates real life home grown rug and carpet debris like pet hair, thread, wool and cotton nap.  All these cling to rugs and carpet surfaces.  Making it a valid test and substance usage.  What does baking soda similate? 

Carmine D.

But not dyson!  Sold the DC07 after 3 years.  Bought a DC14.  Returned the DC14.  Bought a Royal Eminence?  No HARDSELL.  That doesn't compute with me.  Any more than a non-sensical baking soda test.  Make a mistake 40 years ago and chalk it up to youthful exuberance.  Make it again now? No pass this time. 

Still haven't re-bought the best brand you claim to have ever owned.  Although the prices are down to $299 before discounts and cash back. 

Carmine D.

Baking Soda is similar to dust.  This would quickly clog your Oreck.  You could substitute capture, however we already know that many vacs can't handle it.

I believe itt was Karl who vacuumed sheet rock dust with a Dyson and it suffered no ill effects.  Your Oreck could not handle this.

I do not have a dog so no need for the Kapok.  I do live in an area where I get lots of dust in my home. 

Maybe the pro testers should use a substitute for Kapok.  I have contended for years that their testing does not accurately simulate what is actuallly vacuumed in a home.

I kept the Oreck and others for a few days only because the 07 made it look like a toy.  Compute that.

You need to understand that what I currently use is acceptable until I get the urge to replace them.  Other purchases and expenses take priority over vacuums. 

Where is your Hoover Z and Fusion.  You told us how great the Z was (years ago) now the Oreck is better than sliced bread.

Hello DIB:

ASTM is the industry recognized standard world wide.  To answer your question: Yes and no.  Kapoc is not the only test of the ASTM but one of them.  Consumer Reports recently added the pet hair test which I suspect is a variation of the industry's standard kapoc.

Carmine D.

Hello HARDSELL:

Have to disagree again.  ORECK has such a large surface area of paper bag, you would have to pick up huge amounts of any substance like capture, epsom salt, baking soda, construction dust etc. to clog the bag and shut down all suction completely.  My sense is you probably can't unless you decide that you want to do that and proceed to acocmplish your objective.  

But, as we already agreed, when large amounts of any foreign substances spill in the house, the first line of attack is the dust pan and broom.  Then the vacuum.

Carmine D. 

Hello HARDSELL:

I want to focus on this statement because I think it is critical to dyson's decline among its most ardent fans in the UK and other markets. 

When you are a vacuum maker and sell exclusively high priced vacuums through primarily big box stores you will meet with huge sales resistance/declines during hard economic times.  For exactly the reason you stated above.

If dyson can't sell you now, with its latest and greatest, an ardent believer and past dyson user, who then? Not an ORECK and HOOVER buyer/user like me.

Carmine D.

You appear from most recent posts to be  stuck in a conflict of money and feelings.  On one hand you refuse to purchase a new dyson even with the lower discounted dyson prices.  But you argue that the DC07 was the best of the vacuums you own and the new dyson models are even better.  The two points of view are conflicting and a contradiction.  Else you just post dyson drivel as a past user and have no intentions to put your money where your mouth is.  

You might impugn ORECK-s and my use and purchases.  I bought 4 in slightly more than one year.  You bought one dyson and sold it.  Bought another dyson DC14 and returned it because you didn't like it.  But you rave about dyson.  A contradiction.  For you Latin buffs: a non-sequitur.  In fact: 2 non-sequitors. 

How do you reconcile these differences in your mind's eye?  Especially here in your dyson posts.  How can you rant and rave about a vacuum that you sold/returned and still refuse to buy a new one?  Is a couple of hundred dyson bucks [chump change for a dyson lover] that important to you to forego using the best vacuum you have ever owned?

Carmine D.