Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008

I still own and use my ORECK, unlike you and dyson.  If dyson's DC07 pink worked on my carpets, I probably would not have bought the ORECK!  One size does not fit all, my friend.  Choices!

I probably would never buy a $750 ORECK in my lifetime.  For $600, I bought 4 new Classic XL's w/o the toppings.  I'll probably buy the new XL Silver Series for $200 [w/o the toppings].  Is ORECK the best flavor [with/w-o toppings] for all?  No, probably not.  But you don't know for sure unless you try.  If you don't like it, return it at no cost, and keep/gift the giveaways.

Carmine D.

You shift when put on the spot.  I have said many times that one does not fit all and each should keep what fits their personal needs.  Remember when you boasted about Hoover.  As soon as they folded you bailed out and went to Oreck. 

If the Oreck had worked I would not have purchased the Dyson.  I could have returned the Dyson as easily as the Oreck.  However, I preferred it over the half dozen or so that I had tried before I bought it.  All my comments have been based on my experience with vacs that I have personally owned.

You have been anti Dyson since its introduction and prior to your using it. All you could base your constant bias on was an opinion. Personal useage is much better than an opoinion. No one bought your BS just because you thought that you were the only one with an opinion that mattered. 

Heed your own advice.  One does not work for all.

I didn't say "unethical," you did.  Not my choice of words.  I call it "business."  

If you were an independent business proprietor  [and by your admission you never were] and want to stay in business for the long term, you have occasions when you push the $700 vacuum, and not the lesser, to make the higher profit.   Business is about a long term relationship, not a one time vacuum sale.   There are plenty of times to extend business amenities to your customers, not just on the initial sale, to show your appreciation for their business.  When you are in business for 40 plus years, you had to satisfy people and give them their money's worth else not survive.

Carmine D.

Hello HARDSELL:

Using your logic above, if the dyson still worked then you would not have sold it and used the proceeds to buy another brand.  I still own and use my ORECK daily and recommend to others.  You prove my point that only 10 percent of buyers are loyal to a specific brand.  Most people, like you, have a repertoire of different brands for household cleaning products.  ORECK is in my home, along with HOOVER and other brands, because it works.  Dyson isn't because it doesn't.

Promoting one vacuum brand only, as has been the case for dyson fans here, at the exclusion and expense of other brands, particularly by bashing, is bad for the vacuum business.  Of course, it's simple to understand when you are an employee for that vacuum brand/company.  Then you have a vested interest to impugn the competition.  Is this unethical.........because it secretly benefits you [by not disclosing your real/true motives]?  Or is it business?  

Carmine D. 

You call it what you want.  I call it deceiving and unethical as I think most others would.  We are accustomed to your manipulation of words and facts to justify your logic.

You could just as easily give someone their money's worth for less cost          unless it profits you.

Common sense overides your logic Carmine.  I used the Dyson for 3 years and the Oreck for maybe 3 weeks.  I got rid of the Oreck for poor performance in my home.  I got rid of the Dyson just to try other vacs.  Major difference.  I do not own a Dyson and still recommend it.  That is a better compliment than recommending what you use.  Where is your loyalty to the busted Hoover?  If you use them that speaks lowly for Oreck and Hoover.  Really, two brands to do the job of 1 Dyson.

We have repeatedly heard that Dyson did not work on your builder grade carpet.  Speaking of builder grade items.  Did you ever get that builder grade plasma that was gifted with the home replaced or repaired?

In case you forgot.  The Kirby and Royal that replaced the Dyson do not perform to the same high standards.

I can use and recommend more than one vacuum brand and still have loyalty to the brands.   

Severus asks:  Why is it unethical to sell a vacuum for $700 and/or $2000?  Good question.  Not knowing the brand/model one can't say it's unethical or not.  You believe any vacuum over $200 is overpriced.  Is that logical?  Maybe for most big box store vacuums, like your fave [no longer in use] brand?  Not true for most of the vacuum store brands.  

Carmine D.

Hello Severus:

I saw this advertisement over the weekend.  For a dyson buyer, I believe it is a better buy [$250] than most other retailers' dyson models currently being sold.  Of course, with the caveat that a dyson DC07 will not perform on some rug brands and styles.  Not an issue for vacuum enthusiasts buying for collectable reasons. 

In Sept 2006, TARGET stores were selling a DC07 pink on a Labor Day Sale/Cancer Fund Drive for $379, less 10 percent if charged on a TARGET credit card, plus a $100 Giftcard.  The final price, before sales tax, was $240.  I bought for home use.  But this time, unlike with my purchase, there is no mention in the advertisement of dyson/TARGET contributing $45 to the Susan B. Komen cancer foundation with each sale.  

The TARGET Web Site bills this as an "exclusive" with the caveat that it is out of stock.  Perhaps stores are selling out of their old stock.  Which means, if they don't sell and there is a good chance they will not, the price will be lower in the future and/or TARGET may have to offer better buyer incentives with purchases.

Carmine D.