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DysonInventsBig


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The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Original Message   May 29, 2008 12:41 pm

ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related.

(Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)



  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008


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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #194   Aug 24, 2008 9:00 pm
Venson wrote:
Just a thought but . . .

Advertising is probably the most difficult part of selling to maintain an overview of as there is no exact measure per  part  or what its worth.  How much starts up word of mouth -- something you can't just buy -- as opposed to the influence of an actual ad campaign that constantly hits the public via TV dollar for dollar?. 

The services of public relations and advertising firms neither come cheap or are freely given.  They rack up money by billing for time used developing strategy, thinking about strattegy while in the loo or for actually talking about  strategy while on the phone. Even the expense of lunch served during meetings is added onto the client's bill.  In turn, product makers are not about to "eat" the cost themselves.Its only logical that their advertising expenditures are worked into the price of what they sell.

Oreck is whatever Oreck is, but I think what has helped to sell it is the same style advertising in the form of a reassuring father figure that helped the late great Orville Redenbacher, Colonel Sanders and Frank Perdue sell their respective products, popcorn, fried chicken and poultry products. Maybe Halo would have come out better if they'd rented an old man and shoved him in front of a camera.

Venson 



I never felt like I was overcharged fpr popcorn or chicken.  Orville and the Colonel offer a supreme product and no frills or freebies.
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #195   Aug 24, 2008 10:34 pm
Hiyardsell,

I'm sure you must live in a very blessed part of the country and am glad for you.  Please give me the name of your town so I may move there too.    However, in my neck of the woods, New York City proper (and please don't take that as bragging) the comparison for the cost of a plain old whole "fresh" chicken that I could buy from my local supermarket rates as exhorbitant.  The exact same price will not cover that of a couple of the old colonel's fried chicken breasts that would seem to price as though prepared as  haute cuisine.  Not even talking today but  several years back, I could probably have bought a whole chicken plus the farm it was growm on for far less money  than a few pieces of franchise-fried chicken even then.

If I recall correctly you made mention that you could get baking soda for fifty cents.  I just paid $1.29 for one box today.  To me it only goes to prove that whatever they wrote about all men being equal in The Constitution doesn't apply once you start shopping.

As well and as I stated, my comment was not to uplift Oreck but simply to say that the "Trust Dad," campaign seems to have worked well and people often to buy into it.  We have lived our lives here trusting Betty Crocker and the guy who made Dad's Rootbeer  -- and Arthur Godfrey too.

I know.  You're too young to remember.

Venson

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #196   Aug 24, 2008 11:25 pm
Venson wrote:
Hiyardsell,

I'm sure you must live in a very blessed part of the country and am glad for you.  Please give me the name of your town so I may move there too.    However, in my neck of the woods, New York City proper (and please don't take that as bragging) the comparison for the cost of a plain old whole "fresh" chicken that I could buy from my local supermarket rates as exhorbitant.  The exact same price will not cover that of a couple of the old colonel's fried chicken breasts that would seem to price as though prepared as  haute cuisine.  Not even talking today but  several years back, I could probably have bought a whole chicken plus the farm it was growm on for far less money  than a few pieces of franchise-fried chicken even then.

If I recall correctly you made mention that you could get baking soda for fifty cents.  I just paid $1.29 for one box today.  To me it only goes to prove that whatever they wrote about all men being equal in The Constitution doesn't apply once you start shopping.

As well and as I stated, my comment was not to uplift Oreck but simply to say that the "Trust Dad," campaign seems to have worked well and people often to buy into it.  We have lived our lives here trusting Betty Crocker and the guy who made Dad's Rootbeer  -- and Arthur Godfrey too.

I know.  You're too young to remember.

Venson



Hello Venson,

I would think that you are complaining rather than bragging about living in NYC.    An ole southern boy could not exist with all those damn yankees.  Just kiding of course.  I genuinely enjoy people from all over.

The generic brands of bs are cheaper than the major brand.  A visit to the shower also shows that all men aren't created equal.

If I do not remember Dad's, Arther Godfrey Art Linkletter and numerous others it has more to do with memory loss than being too young.  Thanks for the complimenty anyways.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #197   Aug 25, 2008 7:13 am
Hi Venson:

Arthur Godfrey was a TV icon and 'father' of TV talk/entertainment shows.  But Arthur lost some TV fans when he fired LaRosa.  Didn't sit well with many of his Italian American viewers.  He was strongly identified with Lipton tea.

Linkletter is simply amazing, just like Dave.  Art is in his 90's.  He suffered a minor stroke earlier this year.  I saw Art several years back [2002] at a local hotel/motel in Woodbridge VA, 25 miles outside Washington DC.  Humble and generous man.  When I read he was in Wash DC for an event I did some research to learn where he was staying.  I wasn't surprised in the least that he shunned the expensive downtown DC hotels for a less costly and secluded place to stay 25 miles away.  I wandered into the breakfast area of the hotel at about 8 AM and shorly after Art showed up by himself.  We had a pleasant meeting.  Art was gracious to all there, young and old alike.  And was quickly recognized. 

Bill Cosby's show with kids was a remake of Art's.

Seems the "classics" never die and legends live forever.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #198   Sep 11, 2008 12:59 pm
ORECK's latest vacuums returned to the Consumer Reports ratings in October 2008 and fared decently.  The Titanium is the latest ORECK XL21 top of the line and comes in at number 10.  The XL Deluxe is new for ORECK as well.  Both models rate Excellent for barefloors and emissions while the XL Deluxe also scores Excellent in pet hair removal and trumps the higher priced Titanium which only musters a Good.

The ORECK Canister [Dutch Tech] also gets Excellent in barefloors, emissions, and pet hair removal as well as a noteworthy Very Good for noise.

Carmine D.

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vaclov


Joined: Aug 1, 2007
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #199   Oct 24, 2008 6:50 pm
Check out their newly redesigned machines at www.oreck.com.

I assume the motors are the same, but has anyone tried these out by chance?
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #200   Oct 25, 2008 7:13 am
Hi Vaclov:

Not yet had the pleasure but it is definitely on my to do list.  I'll probably trade my current XL Classic for one of the newer ORECK models if I can negotiate a decent deal with the local ORECK HOME CLEANING CENTER.  BTW, note the edge cleaners on the new models.  Can't miss them in the video photo with the 360 degree view.  They are among the best designed/functioning in the vacuum industry, IMHO.

Carmine D.

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Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #201   Oct 25, 2008 11:53 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Vaclov:

Not yet had the pleasure but it is definitely on my to do list.  I'll probably trade my current XL Classic for one of the newer ORECK models if I can negotiate a decent deal with the local ORECK HOME CLEANING CENTER.  BTW, note the edge cleaners on the new models.  Can't miss them in the video photo with the 360 degree view.  They are among the best designed/functioning in the vacuum industry, IMHO.

Carmine D.



Carmine excuse me if this has been discussed earlier as I did not read the 200 responses, my wife used Oreck for years and now being a Riccar dealer she loves our RSL3 8 lb, have you tried one? a little noisey but blows the Oreck out of the water a far as performance
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #202   Oct 25, 2008 3:36 pm
Actionvac wrote:
Carmine excuse me if this has been discussed earlier as I did not read the 200 responses, my wife used Oreck for years and now being a Riccar dealer she loves our RSL3 8 lb, have you tried one? a little noisey but blows the Oreck out of the water a far as performance

Hi Actionvac,

What are the diffferences in performance.

Thanks,

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #203   Oct 25, 2008 5:04 pm
Actionvac wrote:
Carmine excuse me if this has been discussed earlier as I did not read the 200 responses, my wife used Oreck for years and now being a Riccar dealer she loves our RSL3 8 lb, have you tried one? a little noisey but blows the Oreck out of the water a far as performance


RICCAR/Simplicity are a notch above the ORECK.  But I only paid $150 for the new ORECK XL Classic, I had to buy.  And I purchased and gifted 3 more away to family members at the same price.  My dear Wife and I are very pleased with the ORECK's performance for our home and our cleaning needs.  We've used it daily since April 2007.  So the ORECK is a keeper, tho I may trade up depending on the deal.  I may even trade up to the Freedom/RSL4 if the price is right.

I mentioned I'm overdue for the MIELE demo on the S7.  The store owner/operator is also a RICCAR/SIMPLICITY dealer and supposed to have the new RSL4.

Carmine D.

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