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DysonInventsBig
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The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Original Message May 29, 2008 12:41 pm |
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ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related. (Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)
< yr. 1979 < yr. 5/2008
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #19 Jun 1, 2008 7:56 am |
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Why did you never mention this when you were telling us that nothing beats Hoover? Hello HARDSELL:
I did and do but you are not reading/listening. I said my ORECK XL Classic cleans and grooms my rugs well but not as good as the HOOVER WT! ORECK is a lightweight not a heavy weight. ORECK is the best in its class. HOOVER the best in its class. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #20 Jun 1, 2008 8:34 am |
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Hello HARDSELL: I did and do but you are not reading/listening. I said my ORECK XL Classic cleans and grooms my rugs well but not as good as the HOOVER WT! ORECK is a lightweight not a heavy weight. ORECK is the best in its class. HOOVER the best in its class. Carmine D. This leads me to believe that you think these are the two best vacuums on the market.
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #21 Jun 1, 2008 4:41 pm |
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This leads me to believe that you think these are the two best vacuums on the market. HARDSELL:
Best is a subjective description that depends largely on the user[s]. From my personal and professional experience, knowledge and skill, I would objectively rank these two brands as good to excellent performers for all barefloor and rug cleaning requirements in the USA. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #22 Jun 1, 2008 5:04 pm |
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HARDSELL: Best is a subjective description that depends largely on the user[s]. From my personal and professional experience, knowledge and skill, I would objectively rank these two brands as good to excellent performers for all barefloor and rug cleaning requirements in the USA. Carmine D.
These are your words: 'ORECK is the best in its class. HOOVER the best in its class' Are you now admitting that you exagerated the truth?
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DC18
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #23 Jun 2, 2008 6:45 am |
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Hello DC18: Your welcome. And now on to the other questions. I have not viewed the youtube video. My sense is the model tested is the Classic, which is the least expensive of the ORECKS, and the one most discussed here by me. I own and use the XL Classic. My sense too is due to the paper bags that come standard in this model: The CC. The other models: The Deluxe, Ultra, and XL 21 all filter better than the XL. Tho with my dog and my dear Wife's allergy and sinus conditions, the XL with the CC bags bode well for her here in Las Vegas. Price? Here in the US, where the ORECKS are made, there are 4 models: The XL Classic for $299 with the giveaways. This is the model that was recently on sale for Memorial Day for $199 without the giveaways. The Deluxe for $399. The Ultra for $549 and the XL 21 for $749. ORECK added some new models recently in the $499. More on those later. The first 3 models all share the same motor and brushroll. Only the XL has a more powerful motor. And the XL has a brush roll more suited for easy pet hair removal. Of course there are other features that account for the price differentials. 2 speeds on the Ulta and XL 21. Warranty periods are different. Free tune ups, etc. The Deluxe and Ultra are 10 years for warranty. The XL 21 has 21 years. The latter comes to $35 a year for a vacuum that lasts for 21 years with free parts and labor replacement all during the period. This is the most expensive. Is it worth the $740. Not if that's beyond your vacuum budget. Then the Deluxe is probably the better buy. If it isn't beyond your budget it's probably a good deal for you. I can't make the pound conversion, but I suspect the high prices overseas is due to shipping costs and the higher costs of oil to get the ORECK vacuums to market there. Last year this time oil was $60 a barrel. Now its $130 a barrel. Carmine D. Thanks Carmine D for answering my other questions.
DC18
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CarmineD
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #24 Jun 2, 2008 7:44 am |
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These are your words: 'ORECK is the best in its class. HOOVER the best in its class' Are you now admitting that you exagerated the truth?
Hello HARDSELL:
What's true for me with respect to the ORECK and HOOVER usage in my home for my cleaning needs and requirements, may not be true for you. [That sounds very much like something you posted]. Truth, like best, when applied to peoples' vacuum performance, is as much subjective as objective. That's the reason for this site. For people to express their opinions about vacuum products and performance. If it were based all on truth, there would be no need for discussion/review pages. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: The Oreck vacuum and everything you wanted to know (hopefully)...
Reply #25 Jun 2, 2008 8:33 am |
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Hello HARDSELL: What's true for me with respect to the ORECK and HOOVER usage in my home for my cleaning needs and requirements, may not be true for you. [That sounds very much like something you posted]. Truth, like best, when applied to peoples' vacuum performance, is as much subjective as objective. That's the reason for this site. For people to express their opinions about vacuum products and performance. If it were based all on truth, there would be no need for discussion/review pages. Carmine D. For once you told the truth. Only afte ryou were caught up in the CARMINE SHUFFLE.
You dance around likea man with diarrhea, no money and trying to get in a pay toilet.
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