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ORECK - The business, the history, the machine, the man and related.

(Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)

  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008

dusty wrote:

Hello Dusty:

Thank you again.  You are correct.  I was wrong.  Interesting rating for the ORECK XL 21.   Of course only 40 reviews, but still an 80 percent overall.  Not too bad.

Carmine D.

DIB:

Please correct me if I'm wrong [As Dusty did].

It appears that the notice of the trademark is published for comment and in particular for "protest/opposition."  I presume the reason for this is to allow ORECK to stake its claim as originator and/or others to protest/oppose as originator.  During this time of notice, why didn't the supposed originator protest?  And if he fails to do so, isn't he/she preempted from doing so after the due date? 

In other words, anyone could say they were first.  But, if you didn't record/protest the official recordation within the time period allowed, you are preempted from any legal recourse.  In other words, you're out of luck.  ORECK wins by virtue of recording first and not meeting with any official protest in the alloted time to do so.  Is this correct from your perspective?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Same could be said for the Dyson DC15.  Four and a half stars out of five.

http://www.bestbuys.com/p24122475-Dyson-DC15-All-Floors---The-Ball-Bagless-Upright-Cyclonic-Vacuum--reviews.html

To each their own, shall we say.

Dusty

Dusty:

I would add one more observation to make the ORECK XL 21's star rating interesting based on 40 epinions.  Consumer Reports typically and consistently rates this ORECK model above all the dysons save one: the DC17.  So while each their own sounds good, the epinions and CR reviews for ORECK are congruent.  I can't say the same for the epinions star ratings and CR reviews for other brands like dyson which typically gets fair to middlin from CR.

Also Dusty if you don't mind me saying: When you put parens around the http site as you did in your post above, the site can't be found.

Carmine D.

I corrected the link.  Thanks for pointing it out.

Dusty

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,

I’ll be glad to answer your question, but me first…  Q:  What is more reassuring for Oreck Dealers and alike….  A)  Hearing a competitor say on a live national t.v. (HSN) and proclaiming to hundreds of thousand of viewers (at minimum) that “the other guy stole it from me and that’s fact” or B) Knowing “Your guy” is super creative and Trademarked their original phrase?

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What is to prevent Hunter Air from continually stating the above.  If there’s archived video of Hunter Air using this phrase 8 years or so prior, what can Oreck do?        DIB

DIB:

It makes for a good sales show.  The guy had his chance to protest and officially prove he said it first.  He didn't.  ORECK gets the credit he gets to put on a good show. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

CR.  The one who lost a law suit for giving a bad report on a certain electronics good and has raed them at the top ever since.  Also, awarded a best buy to a van simply because it had so many cup holders.

It is only logical that they rate Hoover and Oreck over Dyson because they have headlights to over ride the poor performance of both. 

CarmineD wrote:
Talk about flip-flopping!!!  Weren't you the same one who said the following in the DYSON videos thread:

"From my way of viewing, and probably most others who are not diehard dyson fans, it is quite natural and understandable to side with Kenneth J, the engineering student, who patented his version some 10 years before dyson.  Why?  For the very reason DIB cites so often for dyson against other vacuum makers.  Americans and I trust most others like and root for the underdog.  In this case, Kenneth J. not James D."

So why aren't you "rooting for the underdog" here, as you so eloquently  put it?  There must be some reason other than the fact that you actually like Oreck, and dislike DYSON.

-MH 

Hello Motor:

The difference is huge:  Kenneth J filed a patent 10 years before dyson.  The HSN guy didn't file.  And didn't protest.  2 strikes against him.  Kenneth J has proof of being first.  The latter doesn't have anything.  Even tho given two opportunites to do so.

Makes for a good TV show.

Carmine D.