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M00seUK


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Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Original Message   Jan 17, 2008 3:54 pm
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M00seUK


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #358   May 13, 2008 8:20 am
CarmineD wrote:
You probably don't have the Orecks in the UK.  For those who do, look at the Oreck edge cleaners.  Compare to the dyson DC07.  Makes the DC07 edge cleaners look useless.  Oreck's edge cleaners work both on bare floors and rugs.  The best I've found so far in design function and performance.   

Carmine D.


Orecks are sold in the UK, mainly in catalogues targeted at 'seniors', looking for new ways to spend their children's inheritance.
Possibly in independent dealers too, but like in the US, they're a dying breed these days.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #359   May 13, 2008 8:24 am
The seniors and/or the Orecks?  Certainly not independent vacuum store owners and operators who have kept a steady and stable presence in the US for over 50 years!

Oreck has a network of about 500 stores nationwide in the US.  Has never closed a store to my knowledge after it's opened and continues to open new stores almost weekly.   For most who have used the Oreck stores, whether for Oreck/other brands, they give the stores very high praise, both staff and atmosphere.  Myself included.

Despite the common misconception proliferated by some so called x-perts, the 8 pack of bags sell for $16.95 not $25 as the x-perts say.  Oreck says 8 should last the average user one year.  $2 every 50 days is a small price that most would be willing to pay for the luxury of not having to dump a dirt bin every few days.  I may stop by one of the Oreck stores and pick up a pack soon and say hi to Dave. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #360   May 13, 2008 9:05 am
CarmineD wrote:
The seniors and/or the Orecks?  Certainly not independent vacuum store owners and operators who have kept a steady and stable presence in the US for over 50 years!

Oreck has a network of about 500 stores nationwide in the US.  Has never closed a store to my knowledge after it's opened and continues to open new stores almost weekly.   For most who have used the Oreck stores, whether for Oreck/other brands, they give the stores very high praise, both staff and atmosphere.  Myself included.

Despite the common misconception proliferated by some so called x-perts, the 8 pack of bags sell for $16.95 not $25 as the x-perts say.  Oreck says 8 should last the average user one year.  $2 every 50 days is a small price that most would be willing to pay for the luxury of not having to dump a dirt bin every few days.  I may stop by one of the Oreck stores and pick up a pack soon and say hi to Dave. 

Carmine D.



The fact that it takes so many uses to fill an Oreck bag and only a few days to fill a Dyson dirt bin tells me that the Oreck is leaving a lot of dirt in the home.  Thanks for confirming what the experts already knew.
Lucky1


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #361   May 13, 2008 11:56 am
HARDSELL wrote:
The fact that it takes so many uses to fill an Oreck bag and only a few days to fill a Dyson dirt bin tells me that the Oreck is leaving a lot of dirt in the home.  Thanks for confirming what the experts already knew.

I hope you are speaking in jest or just to bait Carmine...but just in case you don't realize...the "frothing effect" a Dyson does to dirt is fills the container, not the amount the vacuum picks up. Take a full container to an Oreck dealer (or any other bagged vacuum dealer) and vacuum up the dirt from the dirt cup and see how little the bag is filled.
HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #362   May 13, 2008 9:40 pm
Lucky1 wrote:
I hope you are speaking in jest or just to bait Carmine...but just in case you don't realize...the "frothing effect" a Dyson does to dirt is fills the container, not the amount the vacuum picks up. Take a full container to an Oreck dealer (or any other bagged vacuum dealer) and vacuum up the dirt from the dirt cup and see how little the bag is filled.



You are correct, but not for the reason that you say.  The real reason:  An Oreck won;t pick up that much dirt if you dump the Dyson on a hard surface.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #363   May 14, 2008 7:33 am
HARDSELL wrote:
You are correct, but not for the reason that you say.  The real reason:  An Oreck won;t pick up that much dirt if you dump the Dyson on a hard surface.



I highlighted the operative words.  I recommend the local dump.  Every county in the US has one, usually free for residents to use just for that purpose.  Although some county/city and states may charge a special dump fee for foreign made junk that is dropped off for recycle/waste/disposal.

Carmine D.

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Motorhead


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #364   May 14, 2008 6:16 pm
Picked up the May '08 issue of Better Homes and Gardens today, in their closet space/storage article they covered lightweight vacuums.  The Dyson DC24 was their overall top pick due not only to its "chic look" but also to excellent power in such a small package.  Other machines covered were the Hoover EmPower, Dirt Devil Featherlite bagless, Miele Callisto, Sebo Air Belt C2.1, and a Panasonic compact canister.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #365   May 14, 2008 6:52 pm
No Oreck?  The original and oldest lightweight in the USA.  No Riccar/Simplicity?  No Felix Sebo?  Doesn't sound like a very worthy list of lightweight contenders.  Just a few name uprights and canns in all price ranges from low to high.  Thanks for the heads up.  I will make plans to read.  Depending on the content and conclusions, I just might have to send in my response to that article and ask why the obvious standouts were left out. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #366   May 18, 2008 4:08 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Picked up the May '08 issue of Better Homes and Gardens today, in their closet space/storage article they covered lightweight vacuums.  The Dyson DC24 was their overall top pick due not only to its "chic look" but also to excellent power in such a small package.  Other machines covered were the Hoover EmPower, Dirt Devil Featherlite bagless, Miele Callisto, Sebo Air Belt C2.1, and a Panasonic compact canister.


From my reading of the article, all the vacuums reviewed get high marks for their perfomance and size.  None gets knocked down with any cons.  HOOVER EmPower gets the feature views in all the closets illustrated in the article.  And the HOOVER EmPower gets kudos for the hush mode and fold down handle.  This HOOVER model has been around since the spring of 2004 and still very pervasive among all the big box retailers.  It is also a Consumer Reports' pick too for lightweight, full size power and inexpensive price tag.   

I will write Better Homes & Gardens and ask why the Oreck was conspicuously omitted.  Curious to see what they say, if anything.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC24 / DC25 Vacs: Sir James Brings his Ball back
Reply #367   May 18, 2008 5:39 pm
CarmineD wrote:
From my reading of the article, all the vacuums reviewed get high marks for their perfomance and size.  None gets knocked down with any cons.  HOOVER EmPower gets the feature views in all the closets illustrated in the article.  And the HOOVER EmPower gets kudos for the hush mode and fold down handle.  This HOOVER model has been around since the spring of 2004 and still very pervasive among all the big box retailers.  It is also a Consumer Reports' pick too for lightweight, full size power and inexpensive price tag.   

I will write Better Homes & Gardens and ask why the Oreck was conspicuously omitted.  Curious to see what they say, if anything.

Carmine D.



No Oreck?  The original and oldest lightweight in the USA.

They will likely tell you that they only recommend based on performance and not the age of the manufacturer.  Years in business does not = best performance.  After many years of being one of the best  we already know how Hoover quality and performance declined to the point that they sold.  Oreck  at it's best can't compare to the worst Hoover.  They should close and quit bilking the old uneducated consumers.

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