Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hello,

I'll be honest, I know nothing about vacuum cleaners except that I need one. I have 4 criteria for selection:
1) Works well
2) built well/will last me a long long time (serviceable)
3) Made in US, Japan, or Western Europe
4) Hopefully no more than $350

I think Oreck may end up being my choice since it's made in the US and I haven't found any others that aren't manufactured in south east Asia. But that's why I'm here! To tap into your brains :)

Consumer Reports has rave user reviews about the Riccar Supralite which has also been recommended highly in this discussion, along with Simplicity Freedom.

I haven't looked at the machines themselves yet, but want to ask a question:

MH has pointed out the importance of brushroll shutoff for bare floors, otherwise the brush throws the dust around.

Am I right in understanding that neither the Riccar Supralite or the Simplicity freedom has this feature?

Have those who like these vacuums used them on bare floors, and what was their performance?


Christine.

CarmineD wrote:

I have 3 vacuums as you state.  Any of the 3 will do it all.  A used vacuum is worth pennies for the $ it cost so I will keep the Rainbow.  I use it as a shop vac only.  I used it for a few years when I washed out my boat.  It is perfect for vacuuming water from a ski well and the carpets.  If your Hoover cann is so good why do you use the Oreck or vice versa.  I saw the swivel on TV and just wondered how experience compared with the ad.  I suppose it is like Oreck, all hype and poor performance.

If amps really do matter as most manufacturers advertise, (particularily Hoover which you have ranted about so often) then your 2 vacs must perform poorly.  I use more electricity with my home theater than a vacuum could begin to use.  The cost to operate a 4 amp vs a 12 amp to vacuum 1500 sq. ft. would only save a fer cents a month.  I would rather know that my house is clean and that my carpet will not wear prematurely due to using an inferior vac.

I use the Royal for quick cleans.  The Kirby is like the transformer toys.  You have to convert from upright to cannister to use the hose.  Of course you know that.

christine wrote:

It is so good in fact that Carmine quotes it regularly------if it reports what he wants to hear.

I kbw that CR awarded a pasenger van a best buy because it had so many cup holders.  That certainly helps a vehicle to sell for $30,000.

They also give high marks to televisions, speakers and associated components that are laughed at among the people who know how unrealistic the report is. 

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

The Oreck is for rugs and floors.  Cost $150.  The HOOVER Cann for attachment cleaning cost $50.  The Slider for quick cleans cost $25.  Each peforms well for the assigned task.  $225 total.

If any of your 3 super heavies can do it all, why did you buy more than 1?  I'll answer for you because I like you.    

At one time, one vacuum was the norm for an American household.  That is no longer the case and hasn't been for decades.  Most US households today have multiple full size vacuums/stick/hand vacuums/lightweights.  Each suited for particular cleaning tasks/needs.  Just as you and I do. 

I must say less vacuum weight is the latest now.  And while ramped up amps was all the rage in years past, now the mantra is "less is more" and social responsibility for the environment [going green/energy conservation].  David Oreck recognized both concepts early on and captured/locked in on the market long long ago.  The others are imitating and playing catch up.

Carmine D.

 

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

Like I always tell you, Consumer Reports is a guide and a reference source not the gospel.  The experts and pro-s in the vacuum industry are the authoritative sources of the best vacuums for the money.

Carmine D.

OK my question about riccar supralite/simplicity freedom has been partially answered by my discovery that the Riccar RSL4 model has a "SQUEEGEE for bare floors."

The Riccar RLS3 doesn't seem to, not does the Simplicity Freedom as far as I can ascertain.

So: does this squeegee improve performance on bare floors, even if you still can't shut off the brushroll?

C

christine wrote:
The Freedom F3600 has a squeege.
It weighs 8 lbs

The Dyson Slim is 15.5 lbs

The original post was for specific requirements and the Dyson did not fit those: weight, cost, location of manufacture.
Maybe your needs differ. Would a canister be a better fit?

My requirements are different from those of the original poster-in my first post i explained that lightweight is my first requirement.
Also not $#%*bersome and easy to manouever.

I've always felt canisters were a bit $#%*bersome to use and difficult to store. But everyone says canisters are better than uprights for a mainly-bare-floors situation like mine. And now i have been to the vac shop, i might change my mind.

There's a tiny miele canister--carina (seems same as the antares, recommended here earlier) --which seems very light (14 lb) and easy to use, doesn't have brushroll at all but good enough suction (and variable suction level and motor speed) for my low-pile rugs.

So after all my anti-canister protestations, I am seriously considering it!

They only had the 3300 and 3500 Simplicity Freedoms--wonderfully light weight. But no squeegee--so some dirt did fall back at one's feet but a couple of passes seemed sufficient to deal with it on bare floor.

I didn't bring baking soda though as recommended by someone here! actually the salesperson says this would clog the machine (any vacuum) anyway...

The caveat mentioned by the salesperson is that if you vaccum up a coin or screw or similar object--which could so EASILY happen in my house!!--it could get sucked into the works and damage fan and/or motor. What do people think about this?
Same danger with an Oreck, apparently.


They don't yet have the dyson 24 or 25, I'll have to look at those elsewhere.

C.

christine wrote:

If baking soda damages the vacuum then you should not buy it.  It will not harm the Dyson.

I think the salesperson thought you were going to spread the baking soda all over the floors at your house and vacuum it, which would make a mess and clog ANY vacuum (yes Dyson too).  The higher end Freedoms do have the squeegee on the nozzle so they can be used on bare floors.