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scathontiphat


Joined: Apr 29, 2008
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Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Original Message   Apr 29, 2008 5:30 pm
Hello,

I'll be honest, I know nothing about vacuum cleaners except that I need one. I have 4 criteria for selection:
1) Works well
2) built well/will last me a long long time (serviceable)
3) Made in US, Japan, or Western Europe
4) Hopefully no more than $350

I think Oreck may end up being my choice since it's made in the US and I haven't found any others that aren't manufactured in south east Asia. But that's why I'm here! To tap into your brains :)
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #60   May 9, 2008 1:10 pm
Lucky1 wrote:
Christine

A couple of items to note when comparing the Lower priced Oreck's with the Simplicity Freedom.

1 The aluminum neck on the Oreck tends to wear differently than the metal screws holding it. After a while the neck starts to wobble. They almost always come into the shop needing to be tightened or worse case need to be replaced. The Freedom has a round neck that stays in place.

2 The Freedom has a bigger Fan than the Oreck

3 The roller on the Oreck has long SOFT bristles. Some people find it hard to push on thick carpeting. The Freedom has a short STIFF bristle roller. When comparing the two you MUST try them on the same style carpet you will be vacuuming.

4 The Oreck has four wheels on the underside. The Freedom has six.

5 I like the Hepa CLOTH bags that are available for the Freedom. I know Oreck has a paper hepa bag but I don't know if Oreck has cloth.


Another poster mentioned a Metal roller & auto shut off. I am not aware of these features on the Freedom but I don't know alot of things! Those features are available on the Synchrony and Synergy lines. They are WAY TOO HEAVY for your requirements.

Lucky


Lucky 1:

All excellent points for comparison.  IMHO.  Oreck has a HEPA Celoc hypo-allergenic paper.  This may be comparable to the HEPA cloth like bags.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #61   May 9, 2008 1:19 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I apologize for the off vacuum subject but this is somewaht related.  McDonald's is the only FAST FOOD chain that advertises during the Saturday morning kids' shows and cartoons.  It spends about $2 Million a DAY in advertising.  Appealing to the kids who in turn influence their parents where to eat.  I'm a fan of both: Mac's and cartoons.

Carmine D.



No apology is necessary.    Your vacuum choices ars so amusing that it is no wonder that you like cartoons.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #62   May 9, 2008 1:21 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello HARDSELL:

I use a HOOVER Cann I purchased at BEST BUY for $50.  That mostly spends time in the closet.

The Oreck is out in my study/office and gets used daily.

Carmine D.



I am cedrtain that every home owner would prefer 4 or 5 vacuums cluttering their home as opposed to only one that does the same duty----better.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #63   May 9, 2008 1:58 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
No apology is necessary.    Your vacuum choices ars so amusing that it is no wonder that you like cartoons.


HS:

I read the comics daily too.  I just enjoy a good laugh and finding humor in all things.  Like you and your posts.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #64   May 9, 2008 2:03 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I am cedrtain that every home owner would prefer 4 or 5 vacuums cluttering their home as opposed to only one that does the same duty----better.


HS:

Not I, with only 2, unlike you.  I have an Oreck upright and a HOOVER cann.  Both lightweights and compact and use less electricty [4 amps/8 amps respectively].  I also have a 2 pound HOOVER Slider for quick pick me ups.  And of course, the HOOVER Floorwasher [which resides in the garage]. 

Now, if my memory serves me: You currently have a Royal Eminence and a Kirby Sentria and a Rainbow and [before you sold it after using 2 years] a dyson DC07.  Four super heavyweights in price and pounds and power usage.  And you made some inquiries here about a Swivel vac.  Sound familiar?  Your post fits you perfectly.

Which do you use for quick cleans and attachments?

Carmine D.

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christine


Joined: May 4, 2008
Points: 11

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #65   May 9, 2008 2:22 pm
Gosh so much more info, mind is starting to boggle...!<BR><BR>Thanks for the notes on Riccar/Simplicity-- I see that this was well-rated by Consumer reports in their latest survey. <BR><BR>(I wish they had rated the new light-weight Dyson. And they don't seem to mention Oreck at all, unless i missed it as have only glanced quickly so far...i expect reasons for this have been already discussed in these pages at length. Anyway, you guys, with all your detailed info, are more than making up for any oversights by CR! ).<BR><BR>MH, thanks for your suggestions--I'm not &quot; dead-set&quot; on an Oreck, but it appeals because of the lightweight factor; however I'd certainly try other lightweight brands before deciding. The rebuilt route is an idea.<BR><BR> Lucky, I do appreciate your comparison of Freedom and Oreck--most informative.<BR><BR>I should add that I will not be making this purchase alone but with my husband. I didn't mention any price restrictions when I originally put out my question, because I wanted to see what you guys came up with....but, sigh, price restrictions may well come into the final decision!<BR><BR>Christine<BR><BR><BR><BR>

Edited to add, I know I have already had a very good review of the lightweight Dysons from MH, not ignoring that, or any of the other suggestions here. Consumer Reports is always useful though as a (supposedly) objective and unbiased authority.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #66   May 9, 2008 2:42 pm
March 2008 is the first time in recent and past years Oreck was not rated by Consumer Reports.  Until then, Oreck always made CR's top 10-15 in ranks with good ratings for carpet cleaning and excellent ratings for floors. 

I opined recently that I thought Oreck was excluded in March 2008 because it tried to get one of its newer/less expensive models [$399] rated/ranked but was preempted by time.  Just my opinion.

Carmine D.

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christine


Joined: May 4, 2008
Points: 11

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #67   May 9, 2008 5:58 pm
Sorry about gobbeldy-gook above, I tried to edit and that's what happened.

Christine
christine


Joined: May 4, 2008
Points: 11

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #68   May 9, 2008 7:06 pm
Consumer Reports has rave user reviews about the Riccar Supralite which has also been recommended highly in this discussion, along with Simplicity Freedom.

I haven't looked at the machines themselves yet, but want to ask a question:

MH has pointed out the importance of brushroll shutoff for bare floors, otherwise the brush throws the dust around.

Am I right in understanding that neither the Riccar Supralite or the Simplicity freedom has this feature?

Have those who like these vacuums used them on bare floors, and what was their performance?


Christine.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Help choosing a new vacuum cleaner :)
Reply #69   May 9, 2008 7:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Not I, with only 2, unlike you.  I have an Oreck upright and a HOOVER cann.  Both lightweights and compact and use less electricty [4 amps/8 amps respectively].  I also have a 2 pound HOOVER Slider for quick pick me ups.  And of course, the HOOVER Floorwasher [which resides in the garage]. 

Now, if my memory serves me: You currently have a Royal Eminence and a Kirby Sentria and a Rainbow and [before you sold it after using 2 years] a dyson DC07.  Four super heavyweights in price and pounds and power usage.  And you made some inquiries here about a Swivel vac.  Sound familiar?  Your post fits you perfectly.

Which do you use for quick cleans and attachments?

Carmine D.



I have 3 vacuums as you state.  Any of the 3 will do it all.  A used vacuum is worth pennies for the $ it cost so I will keep the Rainbow.  I use it as a shop vac only.  I used it for a few years when I washed out my boat.  It is perfect for vacuuming water from a ski well and the carpets.  If your Hoover cann is so good why do you use the Oreck or vice versa.  I saw the swivel on TV and just wondered how experience compared with the ad.  I suppose it is like Oreck, all hype and poor performance.

If amps really do matter as most manufacturers advertise, (particularily Hoover which you have ranted about so often) then your 2 vacs must perform poorly.  I use more electricity with my home theater than a vacuum could begin to use.  The cost to operate a 4 amp vs a 12 amp to vacuum 1500 sq. ft. would only save a fer cents a month.  I would rather know that my house is clean and that my carpet will not wear prematurely due to using an inferior vac.

I use the Royal for quick cleans.  The Kirby is like the transformer toys.  You have to convert from upright to cannister to use the hose.  Of course you know that.

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