Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi all,

Following is a link to a news article regarding the up and down sides for Electrolux during this year's first quarter.

http://www.centredaily.com/business/technology/story/553091.html

Best,

Venson

Hey Carmine,

I started an Oreck thread and am looking forward to discussions there.

 

I am glad to hear of the many Oreck franchisees and seeing how the franchise concept is good for countless of peoples and the world.  My wife’s grandfather worked directly under the inventor of the franchise concept – Mr. Howard Johnson.  Some history books and t.v. history shows credit him and/or A&W for the original concept but most credit him with the polishing or honing the concept into a money maker for many.  I have never heard of him *bellyaching over others “barrowing” his invention.  Said grandfather co-invented chocolate chip ice cream (while working for Mr. Johnson) for which our family does not receive a dime.  Dyson muscling Kenneth is fiction.  Kenneth was out invented by an ex-furniture designer (I recently learned) and not an engineer as I once thought.          DIB

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*Bellyaching by Kenneth J. and his team of lawyers.

Hello DIB:

But you did not provide your reference source for the dyson info.  Don't have an authoritative source?  Just made up from bits and pieces here and there?  How do we know its reliable?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL:

I know you are reading challenged.  But follow me here.  TTA owns HOOVER, VAX, DIRT DEVIL, ROYAL.  It is the largest maker and seller of vacuums in the USA.  Period, end of story.

ORECK is a niche seller: Lightweights and hotels/motels.  Each is famous in their own right and have a captured loyal market. 

Dyson has slogans and high prices.  A toy with a purpose.  Mediocre at best industry reviews from both sides of the pond.  And that's being generous to dyson.  The signature dyson model, the DC07, is and has been a flop in the USA.  It's being discontinued for failing to perform well on many US carpets, including mine and many others.  It's overriding weakness: a sub par brush roll.  If you invent a vacuum, I don't care how advanced the technology, and put a toy brush on it, it ain't worth $400.  In fact it ain't worth $100.  End of story.  Anyone who can't understand and believe that as a basic truth is blind in love with James Dyson.  And we have a bunch of posters here who are and are proud of it.

You impugn ORECK for being a $199 lightweight 8 pound vacuum.  Compare its brush roll to dyson's DC07 and DC14.  I'd take the $199 ORECK over the $400 DC07/DC14 anyday and in everyway.   And in fact I have and continue to.  Success speaks for itself.  Failure to perform at any price is still failure.

If dyson and dyson fans were so impressed with the DC07 and DC14, they would not be obsolete now after less than 5 years.  The norm for the industry is 7.  Truth is the DC07 and DC14 were obsolete when they were launched in the USA.  Why?  Brush roll.  The worse in the industry bar none.  James Dyson is lucky as heck to have sold as many as he did before the using vacuum public realized the vacuum is nothing more than an overpriced toy with a purpose.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Give us something that we haven't heard about vacuums 1000 times from you.  Oreck is popular in hotels only because it is light weight.  Certainly not for cleaning ability.

Consumers ahve said more positive things about Dyson than any other brand that I have read about.  Old timers will likely stick to old brands.  The younger generations are more savy about technology.  More people drive Chrysler, Ford and Chevy than Porsche, BMW, Mercedes and Lexus.  Which is best?

We have had prior discusions on this but I will ask again.  If the Dyson performed better than the Oreck for me and vice versa for you what makes your opion better.  The name Carmine means nothing to me.  You really shou;ld upgrade that builder grade carpet.  If Dyson is not worth $400 the XL21 is certainly not worth $600.  End of story.

Success in my home speaks louder than your BS.

Hello HARDSELL:

I still have and use my Oreck as a daily vacuum.  And bought 4 more.  What did you do with the DC07 that you rant and rave about? 

Let's stick to Electrolux here and take the Oreck discussion to the ORECK thread.  And ditch all the other non-sense about cars and TV's which is irrelevant to readers and posters here.  They belong on another site. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Excuse me!?

http://www.abbysguide.com/vacuum/discussions/26766-0-1.html

Actually, the two of you going back and forth is irrelevant to the readers and posters here.

Mike W.(Moderator)

CarmineD wrote:

Have you ever considered taking your own advice?

Mike_W wrote:

Mike, this forum was almost dead until Carmine joined in.  Why not just set a rule that we all have to agree.  That should make interesting reading.

BTW, how many posters do we have here?  Maybe 10.

HARDSELL wrote:

Very true!  You helped make things interesting too Hardsell.        DIB

Mike_W wrote:

Hello Mike the Moderator:

I'm trying to reform, give me a break! 

This Site here should inform, entertain and inspire.  If you feel otherwise, let me know privately and we'll work out a mutually agreeable compromise. 

Carmine D.