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Venson
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Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Original Message Apr 29, 2008 10:31 am |
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Hi all, Following is a link to a news article regarding the up and down sides for Electrolux during this year's first quarter. http://www.centredaily.com/business/technology/story/553091.html Best, Venson |
CarmineD
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #116 May 28, 2008 6:09 pm |
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I like underdogs and David vs. Goliath-like stories. I put together a sampling of what James goes up against every day of his business life. DIB
. Dyson | Electrolux | 1) $1 billion annually 2) 2-3 million products sold annually (approx.) 3) 15 years in business (Dyson LTD) 4) 1700 employees (approx.) 5) 45 markets | 1) $104 billion annually 2) 40 million products sold annually 3) 80 years in business 4) 56,900 employees 5) 150 markets |
http://www.electrolux.com/company_overview.aspx Hello DIB: Good info. Thank you but................You provided the Electrolux source for your data. How about the dyson source? Interesting too that you like the David and Goliath stories and favor the underdog. How then do you explain your liking for dyson against Kenneth J, an engineering student. Dyson LTD and the slick NY city lawyers with 3 names and 3 piece suits. Sounds like you were in Goliath's corner in that fight. Against David. I always say: Where people stand oftentimes depends on where they sit. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #117 May 28, 2008 6:42 pm |
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Hi Motorhead, . Thanks. . Don’t let Carmine rattle your cage
Hello DIB:
This is very comforting to know. Tom Gasko is locked up where he belongs. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #118 May 28, 2008 10:03 pm |
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Hi Motorhead, . Thanks. . Don’t let Carmine rattle your cage (get you to doubt exactly how James will proceed or the spirit of your position) over what tools James may/may not use to remind competitors what is his, this includes using lawsuits. Only after a filed lawsuit did Hoover U.S. abide by NAD’s ruling of – Do not use “No Loss of Suction” on their Fusion or Legacy vacuums and advertising that proved to indeed loose suction (after 10.5 oz. of dust). I like underdogs and David vs. Goliath-like stories. I put together a sampling of what James goes up against every day of his business life. DIB
. Dyson | Electrolux | 1) $1 billion annually 2) 2-3 million products sold annually (approx.) 3) 15 years in business (Dyson LTD) 4) 1700 employees (approx.) 5) 45 markets | 1) $104 billion annually 2) 40 million products sold annually 3) 80 years in business 4) 56,900 employees 5) 150 markets |
http://www.electrolux.com/company_overview.aspx It is also good to know that in Dyson's case the underdog is best regardless of sales. Look at the # of $50 Orecks sold for almost $800. Good marketing is better than a great product (for sales and not the consumer).
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #119 May 28, 2008 10:59 pm |
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It is also good to know that in Dyson's case the underdog is best regardless of sales. Look at the # of $50 Orecks sold for almost $800. Good marketing is better than a great product (for sales and not the consumer).
Yes, I'd like to know since you mention it Hardsell. What doe’s Oreck do... 1) in annual dollar sales 2) in annual vacuums sold 3) number of employees 4) just how old is the basic look of the Oreck 5) and what does the 1,000,000 hotel rooms vacuumed daily convert out to? - What is the number of (commercial) vacuums used "...that cleans a million hotel rooms a day is now only $199!" Carmine shoud be able to answer these fairly easy. Carmine? DIB .  < I've seen a 1979 Oreck patent with this exact/near exact look. But I think this look may be even older than that.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #121 May 29, 2008 2:04 am |
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CarmineD
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #122 May 29, 2008 7:40 am |
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Hello Guys: My, my. How did we go from Electrolux, to dyson to ORECK? Start an Oreck thread if you want to ask and answer questions about the most recognized man in the vacuum industry and his machines and business. That is a more appropriate thread than this one. Then all the ORECK facts will not be buried and hard to find. But here's a taste for you: Just focus on the 475-500 Oreck stores nationwide and do the math just for the real estate and ORECK store employees. Not chinese/malay contractors [like dyson]. Impressive? More opening every week too. 45 plus years of history in the US vacuum industry. All vacuums still made in the USA. $150-$199 for a US made vacuum with a 1-3 year warranty and 45 year history is a patriotic bargain. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #123 May 29, 2008 8:15 am |
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Hello Guys: My, my. How did we go from Electrolux, to dyson to ORECK? Start an Oreck thread if you want to ask and answer questions about the most recognized man in the vacuum industry and his machines and business. That is a more appropriate thread than this one. Then all the ORECK facts will not be buried and hard to find. But here's a taste for you: Just focus on the 475-500 Oreck stores nationwide and do the math just for the real estate and ORECK store employees. Not chinese/malay contractors [like dyson]. Impressive? More opening every week too. 45 plus years of history in the US vacuum industry. All vacuums still made in the USA. $150-$199 for a US made vacuum with a 1-3 year warranty and 45 year history is a patriotic bargain. Carmine D.
You should know better than anyone about getting off subject. You add Dyson to every thread, regardless of the topic. Payback can be hell.
Recognition of a founder and all the other references that you mention do not equal performance nor quality. That 1- 3 year warranty is the biggest cost associated with an Oreck purchase. Why no 5 or 6 year warranty? The only impressive thing about Oreck is how they continue to sell inferior products. As for the XL21 warranty. They must charge about $700 to $750 for that warranty.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #125 May 29, 2008 12:23 pm |
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Same old HARDSELL and post material. Nothing new yet? You're boring my man like the vacuums you pitch. Carmine D.
I understand Carmine. You never have a response when you are bested.
Nothing new certainly applies to Oreck. I find it very amusing that you once bragged about Hoover's superiority. They failed, largely due to Dyson. We never heard about the wonderful Oreck back then. Since you failed so miserably with Hoover you are now trying to tell us that Oreck is the greatest. LOL.
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