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DysonInventsBig


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Dyson, In The News...
Original Message   Sep 11, 2007 5:40 pm

This message was modified Jan 29, 2008 by DysonInventsBig



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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #39   Apr 25, 2008 2:08 pm
CarmineD wrote:
 I should also say that more and more retailers tell me they encounter vacuum customers who refuse to buy any dyson vacuum for a variety of reasons.  These have increased, as you might expect, as the dyson name and brand become more pervasive.  I believe this phenomenon has taken hold in the UK where dyson buyers are waning year over year.  Of course, dyson's strategy is to open up new markets in new countries.  Very different from HOOVER which made the US [not the UK and Canada] its main vacuum market for generations and still. 

Carmine D.


Carmine,

What I’ve come to understand of people… money or the lack of it, is the main reason why Dyson vacuums or other premium price products get dismissed by consumers.  Ask a person without the ability to comfortably pay for a high price but desired product and you’ll find many reasoning’s versus the core reason…  it is hard to say out loud and to a stranger (sales person) – “I cannot afford it.”  Have a free upright give-away-day here in the U.S. by the major retailers and folks will mostly line up for the most innovative - the Dyson upright line.        DIB


HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #40   Apr 25, 2008 2:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Mole:

 Of course, dyson's strategy is to open up new markets in new countries.  Very different from HOOVER which made the US [not the UK and Canada] its main vacuum market for generations and still. 

Carmine D.



Is that why Hoover folded?
HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #41   Apr 25, 2008 2:32 pm
mole wrote:
I got news for you the repair aspect of the business is where we really excel,were not your standard issue vacuum shop.We dont have to cheat or lie just to make a living,I can even been seen in public in the daytime and not have people give me DIRTY looks...........

MOLE



Strange that you only bad mouth Dyson when all brands require repairs.  If I made good money repairing Dyson the last thing that I would do is bite the hand that feeds me.  Of course I would also be upset if Dyson sold so many vacs that it reduced the sale of vacs I had previously made money repairing and I did not get enough Dyson repairs to make up the losses.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #42   Apr 25, 2008 5:30 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Is that why Hoover folded?



Folded?  Wishful thinking.  Legends never fold.  They get bought.  HOOVER is a vacuum brand legend.  If I recall Consumer Reports, March 2008, I believe the wording it used is ..........HOOVER.......the most popular selling vacuum on the market. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #43   Apr 25, 2008 6:51 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Folded?  Wishful thinking.  Legends never fold.  They get bought.  HOOVER is a vacuum brand legend.  If I recall Consumer Reports, March 2008, I believe the wording it used is ..........HOOVER.......the most popular selling vacuum on the market. 

Carmine D.



If you do not succeed you fail.  Hoover's philosophy of U.S. sales failed.  If you are lucky you get bought as did Hoover.  Ask all the former employees if they can buy groceries on legends.

I know yu understand but do not want to admit it.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #44   Apr 26, 2008 7:37 am
HARDSELL wrote:
If you do not succeed you fail.  Hoover's philosophy of U.S. sales failed.  If you are lucky you get bought as did Hoover.  Ask all the former employees if they can buy groceries on legends.

I know yu understand but do not want to admit it.



My heart goes out to the HOOVER employees.  I thank them for their dedicated work despite a awful parent company and management [Maytag] which never served the vacuum industry and HOOVER very well.

HOOVER vacuums are the most popular selling vacuum brand.  HOOVER has been the leading vacuum seller [in units] since 1978.  Unit sales is IMHO the best measure of brand success.  Despite the Maytag debacle and all the other vacuum competition over the years and still, the HOOVER brand lives on.  A lasting testament to HOOVER employees.  That's success in my view.

Carmine D.

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Airblade


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #45   Apr 26, 2008 8:15 am
CarmineD wrote:

HOOVER vacuums are the most popular selling vacuum brand. 

Carmine D.


According to what source?
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #46   Apr 26, 2008 8:16 am
Matt:

Consumer Reports March 2008.  The  words CR used are: "it's [HOOVER] still a best seller." 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Apr 26, 2008 by CarmineD
Airblade


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #47   Apr 26, 2008 8:21 am
CarmineD wrote:
Consumer Reports March 2008.  The  words used are "it's [HOOVER] is still a best seller." 

Carmine D.


Not a market share research company...............

According to NPD (which is), Bissel, Dirt Devil, and Eureka all sell more units than Hoover..............when I get the most up to date report I will give you numbers.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #48   Apr 26, 2008 8:24 am
Airblade wrote:
Not a market share research company...............

According to NPD (which is), Bissel, Dirt Devil, and Eureka all sell more units than Hoover..............when I get the most up to date report I will give you numbers.



Please do.  Are these brand sales counted Individually/collectively vice HOOVER?

My sense is the annual new sales of vacuums among these 4 brands are very close from year to year.  I suspect if you include all HOOVER floorcare products [like rug cleaners, and floor washers] HOOVER leaves the 3 brands [BISSELL, DIRT DEVIL, and EUREKA] way behind.  These brands have their counterparts to HOOVER in these floorcare products also.

Since TTA now owns both the DIrt Devil and HOOVER brands..............who should we now conclude is the company with the largest market share dollars and units of new vacuums/floorcare products sold every year in the USA?

Carmine D.

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