Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

http://gizmodo.com/345918/dyson-dc24-vac-sir-james-brings-his-ball-back

Two models, one small, one large :-

DC24
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC24-ALLFLOORS

DC25
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC25-ALLFLOORS

mole wrote:

Mole,  if only you could be as honest about Dyson as you are about yourself.

You probably are correct about vacuumm buyers before Dyson because the bought the over priced excrement sold by indies who conned then into believing their investment would be protected.  Truth is the indies were getting rich on supplies, parts and labor.

Now Dyson has taken that away and the indies are sooo envious.

mole wrote:

Speak for yourself.  My wife’s most enjoyable accoutrements do me just fine.        DIB

HARDSELL wrote:
Hi H,S, What do you mean by honest,for the sake of building his own ego they have bilked and raped and destroyed the high end vacuum cleaner market.The general concesus with strong indys not just the hit and run make a quick buck type is all the same about dyson,to put it in simple terms they have been burnt to many times by companies like dyson,

Im just glad ill be around to see what these guys do to their dealer network, IT'S not going to be a pretty picture,Sort of like Carmine with the salteze bros,

Next question is when the innovator going to come out with a machine that has self adjusting speed control,like some machines have in the same price range............

mole

mole wrote:

Hello Mole:

I've heard and read about this feature, but I can't recall the makes and models having it.  Can you tell us? Curious to know if they are sold by big box retailers/independents.

Carmine D.

DC18 wrote:

The DC18 does not have a ball wheel IMHO.  It's something else unnamed.  I think Mr. Dyson was experimenting with spin-offs of the ball wheel on the DC18.  Then, he decided to go back to the original DC15 design ball on the DC24/25.   

Ironically, GE crossed the same bridge in the early 60's.  It called its wheel a ball but it was more on the order of the DC18 design and operation [more correctly the dyson DC18 is on the order of the GE].  A center placed oblong wheel and not a round ball.

If I can sum up the consensus correctly it would appear that the dyson DC18 is not the preferred wheel/maneuverability configuration for upright dyson vacuums.  Instead the original dyson ball [DC15, 24, 25] is better and more preferred. 

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Mole:

Congrats, you hit on the 2 in over 40 years that fit DIB's description.  Not ironic that they are brothers. 

Carmine D.

HI Carmine, miele has had this set up in their canisters the mid range S class for a long time,I do not know of any uprights that do this as of now, WORD ON THE STEET HAS IT THAT IF IT COMES TO MARKET IN UPRIGHTS LOOK FOR EITHER MIELE,LINDHAUS,SEBO,AND EVEN THE UNINNOVATIVE AMERICAN COMPANY KIRBY.

I would like to add that panasonic in the late 80s early 90s had the electronic speed control on their uprights,How about the hoover electronic 1000 canister from the 70s now sought after by collectors.

  MOLE

Thanks Mole.  Keep me posted.  I like that feature on an upright vacuum cleaner.  Ideal for throw/area rugs! 

The HOOVER Z has a spinoff of this type of feature but it is manual/user controlled.  Called DigiTouch Control Pad.  Adjusts automatically to rug height and gentleness after the user touches the desired settings. 

Carmine D.

Carmine, do you think that TTI is going to get hoover back where it belongs or just let them wallow in the mess that their in now,the name of game today is quality and longevity,which the overseas vacuum manufactures except the germans just settle for peddeling mediocre overpriced plastic garbage.


IT just seems to me that product quality is of no concern anymore,just lots of hype and getting rewarded for screwing the public................

  MOLE

mole wrote:
I doubt that Dyson would consider this feature in the short-term. Not that it doesn't have merit for some people, just that it wouldn't make business sense for them.
If they are already beating most of the competition with their unique, premium-priced, shaped plastic models, to introduce a feature such as this would reduce their sales margin and have an impact on reliability / servicing.

The other machines need every 'draw' they can to get people to consider them over Dyson for the price. Dyson bets their market longlitivity with their ongoing R&D spend.